Michael Moroney wrote:
George Hammond writes:

Hey, Phd physicist; tell us how a dog whistle works.....
tell us why half of the audible reality that a dog can hear
is audibally INVISIBLE to a human being?
From that maybe you can figure out why the fact that a
kid has HALF the movie Picture Fusion Frequency of and adult
means that half the world that an adult can see is invisible
to the kid.

Actually George has this backwards (no surprise here). Kids can hear
higher frequencies than adults and the ability to hear high frequencies
decreases with age. Google "mosquito ringtone" to see how kids take
advantage of this in schools and elsewhere.

Maybe that means that god is a very young person when he listens to
things and a very old one when he watches things. That cannot be
right though since light travels faster than sound.

On Tue, 06 May 2008 02:37:05 GMT, "John Smith"
wrote:


"George Hammond" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 05 May 2008 11:51:03 GMT, "John Smith"
wrote:


"George Hammond" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 04 May 2008 22:11:38 GMT, "John Smith"
wrote:


"George Hammond" wrote in message
om...
On Sun, 4 May 2008 16:49:49 +0000 (UTC),
(Michael Moroney) wrote:




[Michael Moroney, HECKLER]
OK, so what experiment(s) have you _proposed_ that you or others have
done
that will verify or refute your hypothesis? Remember, ones done
before
creation of the hypothesis count toward the creation of the
hypothesis,
not the verification of it.



[Hammond]
Look asshole, it is a well known historical fact that
Einstein's theory of General Relativity had only ONE
experimental confirmation when he published it and that was
Leverrier's measurement of the advance of the perihelion of
Mercury and that was 100 YEARS OLD at the time!
The SPOG is confirmed by:

150 years of Biology research in embryology by Roux,
Conklin, Speman, Dreisch and others.

100- years of neuropsychology research by Bell-Magendie,
Sperry, McClain and others.

80 years of General Relativity research.

50 years of computer research extraction of eignvector
models Psychometry including the Eysenck-3, AVA-4, Big-5,
Brand-6, Cattell-7, Saucier-8, Cattel-13 and many others...
in fact EVERY published psychometric model in the
literature.

110 years of measurement of the Picture Fusion Frequency
(PFF) since the time of Thomas Edison and recently by Lehrl
and Fischer.

80 years of research on the Secular Trend in human growth by
the WHOI, Unicef, Red Cross and hundreds of academic
studies.

40 years of modern measurements of IQ vis. Mental Speed.

20 years of research on the Anthropic Principle in Physics.

The list goes on, and is all cited in my published papers.

ALL THIS EVIDENCE is EQUIVALENT to Leverrier's Perihelion
measurement in GR. Einstein was right about GR, and Hammond
is right about the SPOG.


[John Smith]
Claiming ancient works support your crap MEANS NOTHING - since those
people
are not around to deny your warped claims!


[Hammond]
Baloney, Leverrier's measurement of the Perihelion of
Mercury was the ONLY experimental support for Einstein when
he published GR, and that was 100 YEARS OLD at the time.

Was it verified by later testing?
Was yours?


[Hammond]
Leverrier's study was a lifetime work, checked, double
checked and triple checked, and reviewed by hundreds of
exoperts, same with the evidence that confirms the SPOG. Who
are you kiddin?


[John Smith, wannabee SPOG critic]
No.
When was yours tested?
By whom?
Where is their report?
Where is this "evidence" that connects earlier work to supporting your spoc


[Hammond]
All the supporting evidence is cited by (author,year) in
my published papers and listed in the bibliography. The
peer published papers are posted online and have been cited
1000 times. If you're too lazy to read it, that's YOUR
problem not mine. I don't runprivate tutorials for
hecklers. If you want to be a heckler, you'll have to do
your own reading.
If you were more positive and cooperative I'd help you,
but I'm not gonna feed a heckler and loudmoth asshole with
private tutorials... remember.... you're the enemy, not an
ally.
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Sheesh Mark.So he isnt saying a real God exists, just that our lack of
growth makes us think there is one and creates the false illusion?



[Hammond]
WRONG..... there IS NO ILLUSION.....!!!!
Our lack of growth creates a REAL GOD, the actual God of the
Bible. It has nothing to do with "thinking"it has to do
with actual "SEEING".

So this means that the christians have slower reflexes than
the hindus and buddhists?

By the way...... you're a fast study and a plain
speaker.... I know PdD physicists who see less than you do
and can't even talk!
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On Tue, 06 May 2008 02:32:52 GMT, "John Smith"
wrote:


"George Hammond" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 5 May 2008 21:36:17 +0000 (UTC),
(Michael Moroney) wrote:

George Hammond writes:

Hey, Phd physicist; tell us how a dog whistle works.....
tell us why half of the audible reality that a dog can hear
is audibally INVISIBLE to a human being?
From that maybe you can figure out why the fact that a
kid has HALF the movie Picture Fusion Frequency of and adult
means that half the world that an adult can see is invisible
to the kid.

[Michael Moroney, heckler]
Actually George has this backwards (no surprise here). Kids can hear
higher frequencies than adults and the ability to hear high frequencies
decreases with age.



[Hammond]
Irrelevant heckler trivia. The next thing he'll do is
start posting about Flickker Fusion Frequency whaich has
NOTHING to do with it.
The following has been well researched and documented:

http://www.v-weiss.de/lehrl-full.html#_edn1
"By a similar method, called 'picture fusion' Riedel (1966)
demonstrated that the time shortens as children mature. By
this method, which is explained in the next section, he
investigated children from 7 years (10 frames/s) onward to
15 years (15 frames/s)."

Obviously from this well known data which is common
knowlege in the movie industry since the time of Thomas
Edison, a child cn only see 1/3 of the moving reality that
is visible to an adult. 2/3's OF REALITY IS INVISBLE !
Just like half of "dog world" is INAUDIBLE to a human being.
Go back to school moron. This is cut and dried science.


[John Smith, SPOG critic]
It is controversial claims, NOT "cut and dried science".


[Hammond]
Horse****..... the linear variation of the PFF with
childhood growth, just like IQ, has been common knowlege
known and documented for 75 years.
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On Tue, 06 May 2008 02:24:43 GMT, "John Smith"
wrote:


"George Hammond" wrote in message
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On Mon, 05 May 2008 09:16:48 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)"
wrote:

Roger Pearse wrote:
On 5 May, 12:58, "John Smith" wrote:
"Roger Pearse" wrote in message
Well, why not digest this into a web page, and just link to it?
There is no need to summarize and post a webpage about Hammond's
work. It is so outrageously wrong ...
Although I don;t recall where it is; there is a web page showing all
the
false and insane claims George has made (which pretty much includes
everything he's ever posted or written).

That's the sort of thing we need, written calmly and sensibly.

Well, I don't understand what George's theory is. But I don't learn
from any of these posts here what it is either.
What I do see is that all the posts which are critical of it (and him
-- surely irrelevant?) are no more than what George called
'heckling'.
The only valid point someone has made in defense of George was
something
like "it's not nice to make fun of, and tease, the mentally
retarded."

While true, I haven't seen anybody make a valid point *against* George
yet.

All the best,

Roger Pearse

This is kind of sad. Lot of valid points against his nonsense have been
made. He just swears and insults in return.

Lets go over some of them. He predicts the Greeks had 13 gods. They
had 12. That is a valid scientific objection. His defense is to say
that they either could not count or did not care that they were wrong.

He claims his fusion frequency graph proves god. There is no connection
between these two things. He does not try to make a connection. He
just states it without any proof. He cannot give any proof because there
is none. You cannot refute baseless assertions if the other person is
not looking for the truth.

His theory is much like me claiming that you are a monster from outer
space in human form. You would then, logically, point out that you
are human and I would claim that that is proof of my statement since
only aliens could have the technology to make a perfect human appearing
being. Then when you brought out your baby pictures and school records,
I would start swearing and insulting.


[Hammond]
Hey, Phd physicist; tell us how a dog whistle works.....
tell us why half of the audible reality that a dog can hear
is audibally INVISIBLE to a human being?


[John Smith, SPOG critic]
You don't know?
Hell, we learned that in high school.

[Hammond]
No **** Sherlock, and yet hecklers want to sit here and
argue about it.


There is no such thing as "audibly (correct spelling) invisible". It's
called "inaudible".


[Hammond]
Same difference.



From that maybe you can figure out why the fact that a
kid has HALF the movie Picture Fusion Frequency of and adult
means that half the world that an adult can see is invisible
to the kid.

All one can figure from that is that you don't know your ass from a hole in
the ground!

[John Smith, SPOG critic]
You cannot take the differences between what a human and a dog can hear -
and transpose that to what two different humans can see.



[Hammond]
Oh yes you can.

[John Smith, SPOG critic]
Were you a REAL scientist - you would know that!


[Hammond]
I am a real scientist, that's why I know it.


[John Smith, SPOG critic]
And then from that maybe youcan figure out
that since the Secualr Trend says that the average human is
only 80% fully grown, why it is that 20% of REALITY is
INVISIBLE to the average person, and why it is called HEAVEN
and why the hypothetically fully grown man is considered an
INVISIBLE MAN who lives in this invisble world and is called
GOD.
HALFASS, LOUDMOUTH, STUPID JACKASS!

[John Smith, SPOG critic]
Your claims about "secular trend" are nothing more than a pile of
"unsupported assertions" bull ****!


[Hammond]
Bull****.....the Secular Trend in Human Growth was
discovered 100 years ago and is currently one of the most
well known and throughly researched phenomenons in all of
modern science. Here's a full length TIME MAGAZINE COVER
STORY about it:
http://economics.sbs.ohio-state.edu/...cles/time3.htm

You don't know what you're talking about.
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On Tue, 06 May 2008 02:17:51 GMT, "John Smith"
wrote:


"Roger Pearse" wrote in message
...
On 5 May, 12:58, "John Smith" wrote:
"Roger Pearse" wrote in message
Well, why not digest this into a web page, and just link to it?

There is no need to summarize and post a webpage about Hammond's
work. It is so outrageously wrong ...

Although I don;t recall where it is; there is a web page showing all the
false and insane claims George has made (which pretty much includes
everything he's ever posted or written).


[John Smith, SPOG critic]
That's the sort of thing we need, written calmly and sensibly.


[Hammond]
Don't waste your breath shoveling **** against the tide.
The GERMANS have already done it. Some German truckdriver
named Bernhard Schornak, posted an "antiSPOG website" in
Augsburg Germany, one of Hitler's favoirte haunts. I went
looking for it yesterday and found the ISP has apparently
gone belly up and the site is down for one reason or
another. Shornak did't know any more than you do, a totally
incompetent loon.



All the best,

Roger Pearse

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George Hammond wrote:
On Mon, 5 May 2008 21:36:17 +0000 (UTC),
(Michael Moroney) wrote:

George Hammond writes:

Hey, Phd physicist; tell us how a dog whistle works.....
tell us why half of the audible reality that a dog can hear
is audibally INVISIBLE to a human being?
From that maybe you can figure out why the fact that a
kid has HALF the movie Picture Fusion Frequency of and adult
means that half the world that an adult can see is invisible
to the kid.
[Michael Moroney, heckler]
Actually George has this backwards (no surprise here). Kids can hear
higher frequencies than adults and the ability to hear high frequencies
decreases with age.



[Hammond]
Irrelevant heckler trivia. The next thing he'll do is
start posting about Flickker Fusion Frequency whaich has
NOTHING to do with it.
The following has been well researched and documented:

http://www.v-weiss.de/lehrl-full.html#_edn1
"By a similar method, called ‘picture fusion’ Riedel (1966)
demonstrated that the time shortens as children mature. By
this method, which is explained in the next section, he
investigated children from 7 years (10 frames/s) onward to
15 years (15 frames/s)."

Obviously from this well known data which is common
knowlege in the movie industry since the time of Thomas
Edison, a child cn only see 1/3 of the moving reality that
is visible to an adult. 2/3's OF REALITY IS INVISBLE !

No, no, no. You keep making the mistaken leap, and you ignore the fact
that it's been pointed out MANY times.

The effect you are describing relates to the point that various subjects
perceive flickering static pictures "merge" into the illusion of motion.
You are leaping to the erroneous conclusion that this means that
there is some sort of information lost.

AGAIN, the experiments show ONLY that apparent motion of flashing static
images convert at different rates, NO information is lost, no matter the
apparent conversion rate.

This is stressed AT LENGTH by Siegfried Lehrl and Kristian Gerst Meyer -
they were focused (mostly) on physical science related to the eye
(mostly the lens), but extensively reworked earlier thoughts.

If, as you claim, you know Lehrl "personally" you should keep up.

If you need help with the German, you need only ask.

George Hammond wrote:
On Tue, 06 May 2008 02:32:52 GMT, "John Smith"
wrote:

"George Hammond" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 5 May 2008 21:36:17 +0000 (UTC),
(Michael Moroney) wrote:

George Hammond writes:

Hey, Phd physicist; tell us how a dog whistle works.....
tell us why half of the audible reality that a dog can hear
is audibally INVISIBLE to a human being?
From that maybe you can figure out why the fact that a
kid has HALF the movie Picture Fusion Frequency of and adult
means that half the world that an adult can see is invisible
to the kid.
[Michael Moroney, heckler]
Actually George has this backwards (no surprise here). Kids can hear
higher frequencies than adults and the ability to hear high frequencies
decreases with age.



[Hammond]
Irrelevant heckler trivia. The next thing he'll do is
start posting about Flickker Fusion Frequency whaich has
NOTHING to do with it.
The following has been well researched and documented:

http://www.v-weiss.de/lehrl-full.html#_edn1
"By a similar method, called 'picture fusion' Riedel (1966)
demonstrated that the time shortens as children mature. By
this method, which is explained in the next section, he
investigated children from 7 years (10 frames/s) onward to
15 years (15 frames/s)."

Obviously from this well known data which is common
knowlege in the movie industry since the time of Thomas
Edison, a child cn only see 1/3 of the moving reality that
is visible to an adult. 2/3's OF REALITY IS INVISBLE !
Just like half of "dog world" is INAUDIBLE to a human being.
Go back to school moron. This is cut and dried science.

[John Smith, SPOG critic]
It is controversial claims, NOT "cut and dried science".


[Hammond]
Horse****..... the linear variation of the PFF with
childhood growth, just like IQ, has been common knowlege
known and documented for 75 years.

So? It still has nothing to do with a god.


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On Mon, 05 May 2008 19:52:12 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)"
wrote:

George Hammond wrote:
On Mon, 05 May 2008 11:11:53 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)"
wrote:

George Hammond wrote:


[Hammond]
Hey, Phd physicist; tell us how a dog whistle works.....
tell us why half of the audible reality that a dog can hear
is audibally INVISIBLE to a human being?

[Doug, alleged Physics PhD, SPOG heckler]
And that proves god?


[Hammond]
You bet your ass it does, and the faster you find out
about it the less egg you'll wind up with on your face.

[Doug, alleged Physics PhD, SPOG heckler]
From that maybe you can figure out why the fact that a
kid has HALF the movie Picture Fusion Frequency of and adult
means that half the world that an adult can see is invisible
to the kid.
No. This is not true.


[Hammond]
You don't know your ass fom your elbow.
In this world famous paper (I know Lehrl personally) you
will fined halfway through it the following statment:

"By a similar method, called ‘picture fusion’, Riedel (1966)
demonstrated that the time shortens as children mature. By
this method, which is explained in the next section, he
investigated children from 7 years (10 frames/s) onward to
15 years (15 frames/s).
It is remarkable that critical flicker fusion (30-50 Hz)
has nothing to do with the picture fusion (mean = 15-16 Hz).
Theoretically and empirically this was demonstrated by
Weidenhammer and Fischer (1985). Their findings are affirmed
by the fact that picture fusion is related to intelligence,
whereas, according to Jensen’s (1983) results, critical
flicker fusion has virtually no correlation with
intelligence."

This fundamental fact, that trhe PFF (frames/sec)
increases linearly with age in children, and linearly with
IQ (mental speed) in adults, is a well known and well
documented fact and has been known in the movie industry for
decades.
You don't know what you're tlking about.


[Doug, physics pretender, SPOG heckler]
I never said that fusion frequency was not true,

[Hammond]
Well that saves us all some precious time doesn't it
heckler?


[Doug, physics pretender, SPOG heckler]
I said it
had nothing to do with your claim. You carefully snipped the
explanation of what was said. You are being very dishonest
in your editing of posts that show you to be wrong. You are
afraid to confront the truth.


[Hammond]
The only truth is that you're a lazy arrogant horse's ass
and a heckler.
FYI, the leadership of the world (which you don't belong
to) have known for thousands of years that poorly developed
people cannot "see" reality as well as highly developed
people, which is WHY highly developed people are in
leadership positions in the first place.
Today, the scientific explanation, measurement and PROOF
of this has been found, and it is most directly demonstrated
by the variation of PFF vs. growth.
You're supposed to be a PhD physicist, then surely you
know what a FOURIER FREQUENCY SPECTRUM is, and if so you
should realize that the PFF is a direct measure of the
FOURIER JSPECTRUM CUTOFF FREQUENCY of the Fourier
Transformed spectrum of VISUAL MOVEMENT in the human visual
field. If that cutoff frequency (PFF) is 50% less for one
person compared to another person, then that person sees
HALF THE MOTION of reality that the other person sees.
Now, if you can't understand that simple effect
(identical in all respects to the audio dog whistle version
of the effect), then you are a COMPLETE FAKE as to your
claims of being a PhD physicist.
FURTHERMORE, it is obvious that this MAJOR EFFECT in
vision, causes what can be called and INVISIBLE WORLD for
some people, since this part of reality is nothing but a
BLUR to them. This blurred and invisible world is
historically referred to as HEAVEN.
SCREW, YOU'RE A FAKE PHYSICIST.
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On Mon, 05 May 2008 19:53:46 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)"
wrote:

Michael Moroney wrote:
George Hammond writes:

Hey, Phd physicist; tell us how a dog whistle works.....
tell us why half of the audible reality that a dog can hear
is audibally INVISIBLE to a human being?
From that maybe you can figure out why the fact that a
kid has HALF the movie Picture Fusion Frequency of and adult
means that half the world that an adult can see is invisible
to the kid.

Actually George has this backwards (no surprise here). Kids can hear
higher frequencies than adults and the ability to hear high frequencies
decreases with age. Google "mosquito ringtone" to see how kids take
advantage of this in schools and elsewhere.

[Doug, alleged physicist, SPOG heckler]
Maybe that means that god is a very young person when he listens to
things and a very old one when he watches things. That cannot be
right though since light travels faster than sound.


[Hammond]
Don't be ridiculous. You've been told a thousand times
that children are only an EXEMPLAR of the effect that
actually causes "God" in the population, and that is the
Secular Trend in Human Growth, which causes the average
person in the human population to only reach about 80% of
full growth...... and this is WHY there is a "God". Stupid
huckster.
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