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Time does not belong to geometry



 
 
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Old April 13th 08 posted to alt.sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,rec.org.mensa
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Default Time does not belong to geometry

Time simply slows. That is its one property. There is no time
curvature there
is only space. Gravity creates directions in space through curvature.

If time were a curved dimension what direction would it curve in?

Mitch Raemsch
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Old April 13th 08 posted to alt.sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,rec.org.mensa
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Default Time does not belong to geometry

On Apr 13, 3:04 pm, "Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote:
wrote:

Time simply slows. That is its one property. There is no time
curvature there
is only space. Gravity creates directions in space through curvature.


If time were a curved dimension what direction would it curve in?


That depends on whether its a hook or a slice.


Do you mean it depends on SPIN ???
Ken

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Old April 14th 08 posted to alt.sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,rec.org.mensa
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Default Time does not belong to geometry

On Apr 13, 5:29*pm, wrote:
Time simply slows. That is its one property. There is no time
curvature there
is only space. Gravity creates directions in space through curvature.

If time were a curved dimension what direction would it curve in?

Mitch Raemsch


Curved dimensions? That's pretty twisted.

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Old April 14th 08 posted to alt.sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,rec.org.mensa
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Default Time does not belong to geometry

On Apr 13, 5:29 pm, wrote:
Time simply slows. That is its one property. There is no time
curvature there
is only space. Gravity creates directions in space through curvature.

If time were a curved dimension what direction would it curve in?

Mitch Raemsch


Is this a red shift support theory?
What about blue shift?
That happens too sometimes.

The title of your thread is attractive. I agree in a strange way with
you.
Polysign numbers indicate that beneath the real (two-signed) numbers
lay a one-signed (P1) domain which purveys the unidirectional nature
of time yet P1 is zero dimensional by definition. Hence consistency
with the concept of 'now' and our inability to shift away from the
present. So in terms of spacetime geometry we can cast doubt on a 4D
representation since the ordinary freedom allowed by three dimensional
space does not extend to the time component. The 4D tensor theory may
be a representation of nature but it is complicated by its reliance on
lightcones which send us back to 3D space.

How are one-signed numbers zero dimensional? You can find a detailed
answer at
http://BandTechnology.com/PolySigned
but briefly if one were to attempt to generalize sign it would
eventually become apparent that the symmetry by which one would extend
the real numbers is via the real behavior
- 1 + 1 = 0
which for a three-signed (P3) system would yield
- 1 + 1 * 1 = 0 (* is a new sign symbol)
which is a two-dimensional system; a general P3 value such as
- a + b * c
does not generally reduce to a single component; it reduces to two
components. Yet this generalized behavior on P1 extends down as
- 1 = 0
or
- a = 0
where a is any magnitude. This behavior is a step of reduction or
rendering or graphing. Beyond that its usage in performing algebra is
optional. Hence P1 will still perform algebra such as
- 2 ( - 3 - 4 ) = - 14
all the while being zero dimensional. For instance in P2 we can skip
the procedure
- 1 + 1 = 0
and do summation and multiplication such as
( - 2 + 3 ) ( - 1 + 4 )
= + 2 - 8 - 3 + 12
= - 11 + 14 .
While reduction has not been performed that does not make this answer
incorrect. Upon graphing such a value in any sign domain its
equivalence with the reduced value is immediately apparent. It happens
that the two-signed numbers reduce to a single component which is
burned into our minds as fundamental. This topic challenges
fundamental mathematics yet builds arithmetic support for spacetime.
Several other gains are apparent. Following the pure math challenges
the presumption of isotropic space. The very definition of 'isotropic'
looks quite weak. Certainly space is not the same in all directions.
One way I might see a tree and even beyond the tree is a galaxy.
Another way I see a wall. Is this space the same in all directions?
No. In astronomical circles they concede that they must average the
space to make it isotropic which is farcical.

- Tim
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Default Time does not belong to geometry

On Apr 14, 7:15*am, "Timothy Golden BandTechnology.com"
wrote:
On Apr 13, 5:29 pm, wrote:

Time simply slows. That is its one property. There is no time
curvature there
is only space. Gravity creates directions in space through curvature.


If time were a curved dimension what direction would it curve in?


Mitch Raemsch


Is this a red shift support theory?
What about blue shift?
That happens too sometimes.


Entering time slowdown blueshifts light.

Mitch Reamsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008
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Default Time does not belong to geometry

On Apr 14, 2:30*pm, wrote:
On Apr 14, 7:15*am, "Timothy Golden * BandTechnology.com"

wrote:
On Apr 13, 5:29 pm, wrote:


Time simply slows. That is its one property. There is no time
curvature there
is only space. Gravity creates directions in space through curvature.


If time were a curved dimension what direction would it curve in?


Mitch Raemsch


Is this a red shift support theory?
What about blue shift?
That happens too sometimes.


Entering time slowdown blueshifts light.

Mitch Reamsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008



There is motion curvature enhanced by slow. The slowdown of time
effects motion curvature in the advance of the perihilion of Mercury
also called its pause.

Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008
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Default Time does not belong to geometry

On 15 Apr, 02:30, wrote:
On Apr 14, 2:30*pm, wrote:
On Apr 14, 7:15*am, "Timothy Golden * BandTechnology.com"
wrote:
On Apr 13, 5:29 pm, wrote:
Time simply slows. That is its one property. There is no time
curvature there
is only space. Gravity creates directions in space through curvature..
If time were a curved dimension what direction would it curve in?
Mitch Raemsch
Is this a red shift support theory?
What about blue shift?
That happens too sometimes.

Entering time slowdown blueshifts light.
Mitch Reamsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008

There is motion curvature enhanced by slow. The slowdown of time
effects motion curvature in the advance of the perihilion of Mercury
also called its pause.
Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008


Time is not just an intimate of geometry: it is a product of geometry,
at least as something that can be measured!
When did clocks begin to strike the quarter hours in Europe?
Why?
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Default Time does not belong to geometry

On Apr 15, 1:50*am, "foolsrushin." wrote:
On 15 Apr, 02:30, wrote:





On Apr 14, 2:30*pm, wrote:
On Apr 14, 7:15*am, "Timothy Golden * BandTechnology.com"
wrote:
On Apr 13, 5:29 pm, wrote:
Time simply slows. That is its one property. There is no time
curvature there
is only space. Gravity creates directions in space through curvature.
If time were a curved dimension what direction would it curve in?
Mitch Raemsch
Is this a red shift support theory?
What about blue shift?
That happens too sometimes.
Entering time slowdown blueshifts light.
Mitch Reamsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008

There is motion curvature enhanced by slow. The slowdown of time
effects motion curvature in the advance of the perihilion of Mercury
also called its pause.
Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008


Time is not just an intimate of geometry: it is a product of geometry,
at least as something that can be measured!
When did clocks begin to strike the quarter hours in Europe?


In the Middle Ages.

Why?


Because Europeans are castle idiots, and uniformed about the
wonders of GPS, Sattelites, Cruise Missiles, micro-computers
lasers, and robots that go "rick-rock", instead of "tick-tock".







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Old April 15th 08 posted to alt.sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,rec.org.mensa,cam.misc
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Default Time does not belong to geometry

On Apr 14, 9:50*pm, "foolsrushin." wrote:
On 15 Apr, 02:30, wrote:





On Apr 14, 2:30*pm, wrote:
On Apr 14, 7:15*am, "Timothy Golden * BandTechnology.com"
wrote:
On Apr 13, 5:29 pm, wrote:
Time simply slows. That is its one property. There is no time
curvature there
is only space. Gravity creates directions in space through curvature.
If time were a curved dimension what direction would it curve in?
Mitch Raemsch
Is this a red shift support theory?
What about blue shift?
That happens too sometimes.
Entering time slowdown blueshifts light.
Mitch Reamsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008

There is motion curvature enhanced by slow. The slowdown of time
effects motion curvature in the advance of the perihilion of Mercury
also called its pause.
Mitch Raemsch Twice Nobel Laureate 2008


Time is not just an intimate of geometry: it is a product of geometry,


Time fills space.

at least as something that can be measured!
When did clocks begin to strike the quarter hours in Europe?
Why?
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