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The pipe H = 1000m,the crosssection S equal 1m^2, their botth ends ore opened, the one of these two ends is verticaly put in the water1000m under the level of water.In this pipe the water is only The level of water in the pipe and out the pipe it same. It is needed to remove this water out of the pipe. We want to remove water from this pipe through the bottom upened their end. What the work W it is needed to do, to perform ,in order to push out this water, to out side of the pipe, to the water. dW = FdH (ro)= 1g/cm^3.....gestosc woda dW =(ro)gHSdh H =1000m wys.rury . W= (ro)gHHS/2 S =1 m^2 powierzchnia ************* 1) W =M g H/2 M=1000 000kg M ...masa wody w rurze g=9,81m/s^2 So work W = 1 0^ 6[kg] 9.81[m/s^2] 1000[m] W= ~10^11[kgm][m/s^2] W =10^11[kgm^2/s^2]=10^11[J} 1J/s =1watt W/s = 10^11watt= 10^5 megawatt W/s =Gigawatt 50 Gigawatt?? Because work W = MgH/2 So finally W/s = Pawer = 50/2 =25 GIGAWATT !!?? It is amplituda of the power oscilation ; . On the center of this oscilation ,velocity V is maximal. This energy 25 Gigawat * sec it was using in order to remove water out of the pipe, and this same energy should be changed on another energy cntinously. With best greetings E.W. |
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In sci.physics, Eugeniusz Wareda
wrote on Sat, 26 Jun 2004 19:00:44 +0200 : Welcome The pipe H = 1000m,the crosssection S equal 1m^2, their botth ends ore opened, the one of these two ends is verticaly put in the water1000m under the level of water.In this pipe the water is only The level of water in the pipe and out the pipe it same. It is needed to remove this water out of the pipe. We want to remove water from this pipe through the bottom upened their end. What the work W it is needed to do, to perform ,in order to push out this water, to out side of the pipe, to the water. dW = FdH (ro)= 1g/cm^3.....gestosc woda dW =(ro)gHSdh H =1000m wys.rury . W= (ro)gHHS/2 S =1 m^2 powierzchnia ************* 1) W =M g H/2 M=1000 000kg M ...masa wody w rurze g=9,81m/s^2 So work W = 1 0^ 6[kg] 9.81[m/s^2] 1000[m] W= ~10^11[kgm][m/s^2] W =10^11[kgm^2/s^2]=10^11[J} 1J/s =1watt W/s = 10^11watt= 10^5 megawatt W/s =Gigawatt 50 Gigawatt?? Because work W = MgH/2 So finally W/s = Pawer = 50/2 =25 GIGAWATT !!?? It is amplituda of the power oscilation ; . On the center of this oscilation ,velocity V is maximal. This energy 25 Gigawat * sec it was using in order to remove water out of the pipe, and this same energy should be changed on another energy cntinously. With best greetings E.W. Take a clear water-filled glass and insert a soda straw thereinto. Notice anything happening? Your pipe will do exactly the same thing. (Namely, nothing.) While it might be interesting to insert a thermally insulated pipe into the sea and extract work off the temperature difference, that's a different problem from the one you're apparently trying to solve, and rather badly. Another possibility is using the natural attraction of water with materials to do various things (that soda straw, after all, has a meniscus, and capillary action is well known). However, that's probably going to be far less than 5 GW. Here's something that may be a pretty problem, though (and unlike your contrivance would actually function -- for a time). Take a 1 km long / 1 m^2 crosssection pipe and cap one end thereof, then insert it into the ocean, open end first, taking care to keep it pointed perpendicular thereto (the bouyancy will give one problems unless the pipe is very heavy). In its installed state the cap is just at sea level. One can then get compressed air from the cap (using a valve) until the air runs out (or until the weight of the combination becomes too great for the substrata upon which it sits and the structure collapses). [1] How heavy a pipe is needed in order to exactly counter the bouyancy of itself, plus the compressed air? [2] What is the pressure of the captured air, initially? [3] How much work is needed (work = mechanical energy) in order to drop the pipe into the ocean, assuming an uncapped pipe is bouyantly neutral? [4] How much work can be extracted from the air in the pipe? [5] What is the tension on the pipe, assuming the entire substructure is strong enough to stand the stress and the pipe, if uncapped, would be bouyantly neutral? There is also one compressed-air generation facility that utilizes falling water, with the air embedded thereinto. (Nice dry air, too, as it turns out; the water cools the air as well as compressing it.) -- #191, It's still legal to go .sigless. |
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