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Old December 27th 06 posted to sci.math.symbolic,alt.energy.renewable,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.sci.physics,sci.energy
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Perpetual Motion, is like a rubics cube that has never been solved.
Every single scientist who has approached it, denies it. Every single
scientist, that has attempted to solve the problem and produce a system
that operates over unity, has labeled it impossible. In spite of how
some people seem to believe that the Universe is broken, although, it
continues with closed environmental systems deep in caves, ecosystems
that require no light, and rely completely on chemosynthesis, they
still insist that the Universe, cannot support perpetual motion.
Although, it may require billions of years for the moon to finally fall
to the Earth, they have all given up on the math. They throw down the
puzzle, just like the rubics cube so many recollect having been thrown
before.

Why don't they run around in a panic and just start screaming "Entropy!
We're all gonna die!" There is no reason that a closed loop system
cannot work. Every time you see that shrimp in a bottle with a tiny
piece of kelp to keep enough oxygen around, it hasn't stopped producing
bioelectric impulses or it's thinking by as much it's breathing, nor
limited the creature physical strength. It has to be possible, or it
wouldn't happen.

It is the assumption of the quitters that have given up, or never
tried, that will tell you that it's against the laws of thermodynamics.
But, far be it from them to know how many BTUs it would require to
heat a living room of 30' X 30' X 8', from a temperature of 0 degrees
celsius at sea level. Entropy of intellect will kill us all!!

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Old December 27th 06 posted to sci.math.symbolic,alt.energy.renewable,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.sci.physics,sci.energy
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Don't think that I don't know of something that would work until the
bearing wore out.

First, invent the right compressor pump. It uses two solenoids, with
electromagnetic coils that are tuned to a frequency that is 1/5th of
the frequency of the stroke of the pump. The pump is designed like a
Rod Pump.

http://www.autoelect.com/wp/Specs/pr...oc/index.shtml

The rest uses hydrodynamics, and slug flow, with a 500 ft deep well.
The well has a diameter that is wide enough to prevent air bubbles from
being drawn down into it. The maximum line diameter of pipes from the
bottom to the top in which slug flow is generated is 4 inches.

A water wheel, then collects the energy through a spill way that again
seperates the air from the water, and a gearbox.

If you use a crappy compressor, you won't be over unity. If you use a
water wheel that is either two wide or too narrow, it won't work. If
the gear ratio is wrong, the generator won't produce enough power to
keep the solenoid running. There is a compressor piston on either side
of the fulcrum, the Rod Pump is an example of both the velocity range
it should the solenoid should be operated at, and the value of
inductance to design the solenoid with. Maximum current flow is
present for 4/5ths of the stroke. The solenoid is also designed to
insure that the stroke is never greater than 1/3rd the length of the
solenoid, and spends all of it's time at least 2/3rds inside the coil
that draws it back. The solenoid is also designed never to reach
clamp. So, there are alot of terms to understand, that cross over into
several fields of study. Fluid/hydrodynamics and slug flow.
Electronics, for the control switching of the solenoids, which could be
mechanical. Specialty in solenoid design to design the solenoids. The
design of waterwheels which has practically all been replaced with
turbines, at high pressures, volumes, and flow rates, verses low
velocity, moderate volume flow rates. Plenty of old school to prove
either this or that.

And remember, opinion, doesn't build anything, doesn't prove whether
and idea will or won't work. It is only an opinion and should be given
only the validity of any cave painting.

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Old December 27th 06 posted to sci.math.symbolic,alt.energy.renewable,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.sci.physics,sci.energy
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"The Flavored Coffee Guy" wrote in
ups.com:

(much meaningless babble snipped)

celsius at sea level. Entropy of intellect will kill us all!!


Your intellect appears to have reached entropy already. Just
what are you flavoring your coffee with?

Try putting that sealed jar with the shrimp in a dark room
and see how long the shrimp lives. Might that give you a clue?

Come back when you're sober/unstoned.

--Damon Screw 'perpetual motion' and 'free' energy. I'd rather
win the Lottery. With that, I have a chance to win.
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Old December 27th 06 posted to sci.math.symbolic,alt.energy.renewable,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.sci.physics,sci.energy
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"The Flavored Coffee Guy" wrote in message
ups.com...
Perpetual Motion, is like a rubics cube that has never been solved.
Every single scientist who has approached it, denies it. Every single
scientist, that has attempted to solve the problem and produce a system
that operates over unity, has labeled it impossible. In spite of how
some people seem to believe that the Universe is broken, although, it
continues with closed environmental systems deep in caves, ecosystems
that require no light, and rely completely on chemosynthesis, they
still insist that the Universe, cannot support perpetual motion.
Although, it may require billions of years for the moon to finally fall
to the Earth, they have all given up on the math. They throw down the
puzzle, just like the rubics cube so many recollect having been thrown
before.

Why don't they run around in a panic and just start screaming "Entropy!
We're all gonna die!" There is no reason that a closed loop system
cannot work. Every time you see that shrimp in a bottle with a tiny
piece of kelp to keep enough oxygen around, it hasn't stopped producing
bioelectric impulses or it's thinking by as much it's breathing, nor
limited the creature physical strength. It has to be possible, or it
wouldn't happen.

It is the assumption of the quitters that have given up, or never
tried, that will tell you that it's against the laws of thermodynamics.
But, far be it from them to know how many BTUs it would require to
heat a living room of 30' X 30' X 8', from a temperature of 0 degrees
celsius at sea level. Entropy of intellect will kill us all!!



It seems they must of had an early release over at the State Hospital!


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Old December 27th 06 posted to sci.math.symbolic,alt.energy.renewable,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.sci.physics,sci.energy
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The Flavored Coffee Guy wrote:
Perpetual Motion, is like a rubics cube that has never been solved.
Every single scientist who has approached it, denies it.


Snip ********

Oh dear, the intellectually challenged are out again.

--
Malc

You know it's a bad day when even the aubergines are plotting against you


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Old December 28th 06 posted to sci.math.symbolic,alt.energy.renewable,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.sci.physics,sci.energy
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"The Flavored Coffee Guy" wrote in message
ups.com...
Perpetual Motion, is like a rubics cube that has never been solved.
Every single scientist who has approached it, denies it. Every single
scientist, that has attempted to solve the problem and produce a system
that operates over unity, has labeled it impossible. In spite of how
some people seem to believe that the Universe is broken, although, it
continues with closed environmental systems deep in caves, ecosystems
that require no light, and rely completely on chemosynthesis, they
still insist that the Universe, cannot support perpetual motion.
Although, it may require billions of years for the moon to finally fall
to the Earth, they have all given up on the math. They throw down the
puzzle, just like the rubics cube so many recollect having been thrown
before.

Why don't they run around in a panic and just start screaming "Entropy!
We're all gonna die!" There is no reason that a closed loop system
cannot work. Every time you see that shrimp in a bottle with a tiny
piece of kelp to keep enough oxygen around, it hasn't stopped producing
bioelectric impulses or it's thinking by as much it's breathing, nor
limited the creature physical strength. It has to be possible, or it
wouldn't happen.

It is the assumption of the quitters that have given up, or never
tried, that will tell you that it's against the laws of thermodynamics.
But, far be it from them to know how many BTUs it would require to
heat a living room of 30' X 30' X 8', from a temperature of 0 degrees
celsius at sea level. Entropy of intellect will kill us all!!


Find out the difference between the machines. Perpetual motion is different
to "free energy" machines. A heat pump produces on average 3kW for every
one it uses to operate. Over unity? Some say yes. It moves heat that cost
nothing to you to get. So, some free energy there.


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Old December 28th 06 posted to sci.math.symbolic,alt.energy.renewable,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.sci.physics,sci.energy
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Simple perpetual motion. Stop eating or consuming anthing and let's
see what you can do.

"The Flavored Coffee Guy" wrote in message
ups.com...
Perpetual Motion, is like a rubics cube that has never been solved.
Every single scientist who has approached it, denies it. Every
single
scientist, that has attempted to solve the problem and produce a
system
that operates over unity, has labeled it impossible. In spite of
how
some people seem to believe that the Universe is broken, although,
it
continues with closed environmental systems deep in caves,
ecosystems
that require no light, and rely completely on chemosynthesis, they
still insist that the Universe, cannot support perpetual motion.
Although, it may require billions of years for the moon to finally
fall
to the Earth, they have all given up on the math. They throw down
the
puzzle, just like the rubics cube so many recollect having been
thrown
before.

Why don't they run around in a panic and just start screaming
"Entropy!
We're all gonna die!" There is no reason that a closed loop system
cannot work. Every time you see that shrimp in a bottle with a tiny
piece of kelp to keep enough oxygen around, it hasn't stopped
producing
bioelectric impulses or it's thinking by as much it's breathing, nor
limited the creature physical strength. It has to be possible, or
it
wouldn't happen.

It is the assumption of the quitters that have given up, or never
tried, that will tell you that it's against the laws of
thermodynamics.
But, far be it from them to know how many BTUs it would require to
heat a living room of 30' X 30' X 8', from a temperature of 0
degrees
celsius at sea level. Entropy of intellect will kill us all!!



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Old December 28th 06 posted to sci.math.symbolic,alt.energy.renewable,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.sci.physics,sci.energy
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Today's list of individuals who did not touch a calculator, or do any
research that made pointless comments, that can only be evaluated to
equal the intellect of a spear chucker as a the sum of individuals to
have posted senseless responses, without working out a single equation
is:

{May be a real name, more intellegent than the last two, but still did
not pick up a calculator or do any research, and knows he writing off
of the top of his head. Most likely to deny his total lack knowledge,
and support that with benign confidence.} Bob Eld,

{Possible real first, isn't so sure of anonymity, but wishes for it.}
malc,

{stupid nickname, ment for anonymity and confusion. Thinks he's a
genius, but far from it, and any of his e-mail can be tracked.} news,

{just a stupid nickname, that is intended to show some character, and
resolve some false sense of security in anonymity, and it doesn't work
either} Solar Flare

http://www.abundantearth.com/store/ecosphere.html

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Old December 28th 06 posted to sci.math.symbolic,alt.energy.renewable,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.sci.physics,sci.energy
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http://www.solenoidcity.com/solenoid...s-70-300p2.htm

http://www.h2wtech.com/highdcbrushless.htm
Ask this company to design you an Absolutely DC Linear Motor, with a
tuned stroke velocity, meaning that the electromagnets will not reach
their full field strength until they are 1/5th of the distance each
magnet would travel. After that, make sure that they know that the
stroke length is more than 8 feet.


1200 Watts, using 3 phase 240VAC produces 1107 Lbs of force. Every
time I add more windings, I can reduce the voltage considerable using
DC, over AC. Every metal they use has more time to magnetize, than it
ever could with AC at 60Hz, hysteresis, and reluctance involved. If
they knew that the stroke was 2 seconds long, they could design a
device that uses 1/4 of a second interval, and wouldn't move at the
same peak velocity, but the peak force produced in pounds could easily
be doubled, or even potentially quadupled. You can lift a car with a
relatively small amount of voltage and current, but you will be waiting

for the magnet to actually magnetize. If I half the magnetization
rate, then I can double the power in force by doubling the number of
magnetic lines present. The only real way to do that, and require less

power for more force in a ratio, of power to force, is double the
number of windings, and double the amount of time the coil is on.
Changing the wire diameter could cause the coil to require a higher
voltage to establish the same number of ampere turns, and increasing
the wire diameter to compensate for that would require a larger
magnetic core to wind on, with a larger space and volume set asside for

the coils. The mechanical force is gained.


When you start looking at a very low RPM, that is around 1 to 0.25,
most ferromagnetic metals have the time that they need to reach their
maximum. As long as that happens, it really changes everything. It's
never too slow when you are using a flywheel somewhere, that is
actually moving at a high RPM, and smoothing out the linear motion.


Faster, is never better with magnetic motors. The metal can help
allot.


This magnet can lift over 360 Lbs, and the input power is 72 watts.
Solenoids are not allowed to clamp, lifting magnets always do. The
difference is relatively small.
http://www.solenoidcity.com/electrom...e-40-300p2.htm


http://www.solenoidcity.com/electrom...E-40-300p1.htm


http://www.solenoidcity.com/electrom...e-40-300p2.htm


So, if the linear motor is using 1200 Watts to produce 1107 Lbs of
force, and I took 1107lbs/360lbs I get 3.075, now I take 3.075*72Watts
and get 221.4, that tells me how many watts I would need to lift the
same amount of weight using three of those DC magnets. The difference
is, that when you turn on that DC magnet, you leave it on, and so you
don't notice if it takes 1/2 second, or 1/4 second to reach that full
potential. Eventually, it really does work out that a solenoid can be
designed as the soul member of an over unity device. The engine that
drives the generator.


Dre, cross post like everyone else!

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Old December 28th 06 posted to sci.math.symbolic,alt.energy.renewable,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.sci.physics,sci.energy
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"The Flavored Coffee Guy" wrote in message
ups.com...
Perpetual Motion, is like a rubics cube that has never been solved.
Every single scientist who has approached it, denies it. Every single
scientist, that has attempted to solve the problem and produce a system
that operates over unity, has labeled it impossible. In spite of how
some people seem to believe that the Universe is broken, although, it
continues with closed environmental systems deep in caves, ecosystems
that require no light, and rely completely on chemosynthesis, they
still insist that the Universe, cannot support perpetual motion.
Although, it may require billions of years for the moon to finally fall
to the Earth, they have all given up on the math. They throw down the
puzzle, just like the rubics cube so many recollect having been thrown
before.

Why don't they run around in a panic and just start screaming "Entropy!
We're all gonna die!" There is no reason that a closed loop system
cannot work. Every time you see that shrimp in a bottle with a tiny
piece of kelp to keep enough oxygen around, it hasn't stopped producing
bioelectric impulses or it's thinking by as much it's breathing, nor
limited the creature physical strength. It has to be possible, or it
wouldn't happen.

It is the assumption of the quitters that have given up, or never
tried, that will tell you that it's against the laws of thermodynamics.
But, far be it from them to know how many BTUs it would require to
heat a living room of 30' X 30' X 8', from a temperature of 0 degrees
celsius at sea level. Entropy of intellect will kill us all!!


The universe is the quintessential perpetual motion machine.

There is no time dimension, space''time'' dimension, block time/universe,
nor chrononon time particle.Space and objects simply continue in a
Now universe always in continuous change (motion) .


from: Spirit of Truth

(using June's e-mail to communicate to you)!


 




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