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Dear Jbex:

"Jbex" wrote in message
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Hi,

I am an electrical engineer living in Salt Lake City, Utah (USA).

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David A. Smith

I'm sorry, I did actually mean to apologize for that
in my note. However, I did try to keep the size down
and it's pretty rare these days for people to use browsers
that don't handle attachments. But, again - sorry.


(formerly)" dlzc1.cox@net wrote in message
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Dear Jbex:

"Jbex" wrote in message
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Hi,

I am an electrical engineer living in Salt Lake City, Utah (USA).

Do not post attachments on newsgroups. Some browsers cannot handle them.
And they take up hard disk space you do not pay for.

David A. Smith

you're wasting your life...

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Dear Jbex:

"Jbex" wrote in message
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Hi,

I am an electrical engineer living in Salt Lake City, Utah (USA).

Do not post attachments on newsgroups. Some browsers cannot handle them.
And they take up hard disk space you do not pay for.

David A. Smith

Jebex How do you know it was a visit from Elohim, and not a visit
from Satan,
Satan is the God of this world, and controls most thought.
I believe this because I had a similar experience 40 years ago,
and this is why I became an Einstein chaser like many in these groups,
I wrote a letter about the ''Einstein hoax'' to a well known
Religious institute
and learned several letters were written in my name, trying to confuse
the view I was presenting.
leonard

"Jeremy Watts" wrote in message
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you're wasting your life...


Your statement implies that YOU actually know what
makes one's life meaningful - which I highly doubt.

Regardless of that, I'm offering all of the self-proclaimed
scientists and intellectuals that frequent this newsgroup
to pose some questions to some EXTREMELY
knowledgeable people to either prove to themselves
their existence OR just to get answers to some questions
which thus far have been out of reach of our current
science and technology. As I said in the original post:
I am an engineer. So I think I can accurately gauge
the scientific knowledge that someone possesses and these
people have convinced me beyond a shadow of a doubt
that they are who they claim to be. Well I'm now
offering that chance to others; and if they decide not to
accept this challenge then they must not be as
interested in the pursuit of truth as they claim.

Either way, I've been told of some things that will
happen in humanity's future that aren't very pleasant.
And if I didn't at least attempt to warn people of
this then I wouldn't be able to live with myself.
Would you?

jbex



(formerly)" dlzc1.cox@net wrote in message
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Dear Jbex:

"Jbex" wrote in message
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Hi,

I am an electrical engineer living in Salt Lake City, Utah (USA).

Do not post attachments on newsgroups. Some browsers cannot handle
them.
And they take up hard disk space you do not pay for.

David A. Smith

Well I'm not sure if you're being serious here or not because I
haven't surfed this group for some time now and I'm not really
familiar with your character. However, I will say this: I do not
believe in the supernatural/organized-religion versions of God,
Satan, Demons, etc. What I do believe (and most of this has
been confirmed by our new friends) is that all beings, well-
intentioned or not, are just different forms and different levels
of normal physical life. Any God or Gods who exist in our
universe are just lifeforms that are much more advanced
than we are. All that which we deem "paranormal" is simply
science that we currently do not comprehend.

That being said, the Elohim have gone way out of their way
to gain our trust. They are extremely patient and compassionate.
Unfortunately the same cannot be said of all living beings in
the universe (humanity being a prime example of this) and
many of the religious and spiritual beliefs that have been
perpetuated throughout our cultures can be chalked-up to
an attempt by more advanced civilizations to guide us
down a particular path so that we can very easily be taken
advantage of when the time is right. Now if you wish to
label these beings as "evil" and/or call them Satan, that
certainly is your right. But if you do so then you must label
Homo Sapiens in the same fashion based on how we have
treated other animals and less-advanced civilizations right
here on good ol' Earth.

jbex

"Leonard Abbott" wrote in message
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Jebex How do you know it was a visit from Elohim, and not a visit
from Satan,
Satan is the God of this world, and controls most thought.
I believe this because I had a similar experience 40 years ago,
and this is why I became an Einstein chaser like many in these groups,
I wrote a letter about the ''Einstein hoax'' to a well known
Religious institute
and learned several letters were written in my name, trying to confuse
the view I was presenting.
leonard

Stop posting such ginormous messages please, it takes too long on line, we
can't a££ord the phone bill

Dear Jbex:

"Jbex" wrote in message
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"Jeremy Watts" wrote in message
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Either way, I've been told of some things that will
happen in humanity's future that aren't very pleasant.
And if I didn't at least attempt to warn people of
this then I wouldn't be able to live with myself.
Would you?

This has been reported already. Revelations, the predictions of
Nostradamus.

The issue with predestination, is that there is no way to change it. So
harping on it will change nothing for mankind. Doesn't do much for the
present either.

David A. Smith

I do agree with you in principal, however in this particular case the
event is not necessarily pre-determined but is merely the end result
of a plan that was put into motion many millennia ago by beings with
the means to disguise the plan as inevitable prophecy and the ability
to then carry out the plan as needed. And one of the main points of
this whole deal is that our government was given the opportunity to
put a stop to this plan but instead sold out its citizenry to meet a few
short-sited goals. And in fact, now that there's really not much they
can do about the situation, I really don't blame them for not disclosing
the information because panic would most likely result.

Now since my new friends have assured me that this won't result in
the end of human civilization and we will eventually get past this and
even move on to Mars and eventually the stars, then I figured I might
at least give anyone who's willing, the opportunity to ask any science
related questions to these EXCEEDINGLY knowledgeable people.
I'm really just trying to not be greedy by keeping their information
to myself, ya know? %^)

But I know that most people won't believe me and that's fine - my wife
and I have jobs to do regardless. At least I can clear my conscience
by at least providing people with a very rare opportunity - any takers?

p.s. In regard to the pre-determination issue. I'm pretty sure that my
friends have relayed to me the idea that one given future is not really
set in stone - there are many different possible futures that might happen
based on the occurrence of different events: similar to the ideas behind
quantum mechanics. Some futures are just more probable than others
(most likely in bell-curve fashion) based on the likelihood of certain
events.

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Dear Jbex:


This has been reported already. Revelations, the predictions of
Nostradamus.

The issue with predestination, is that there is no way to change it. So
harping on it will change nothing for mankind. Doesn't do much for the
present either.

David A. Smith

As I said earlier, I apologize for the large attachments.
I just assumed that people would set their news reader
programs to not accept attachments or filter large posts
if they were a problem. But obviously not everyone can
do that, so I'm sorry. %^)

"Prai Jei" wrote in message
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Stop posting such ginormous messages please, it takes too long on line, we
can't a££ord the phone bill