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Old September 20th 08 posted to rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
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Light passing nearest the nucleus is going the slowest.

This is refractive index.

Mitch Raemsch
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Old September 23rd 08 posted to rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
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BURT wrote:

Light passing nearest the nucleus is going the slowest.

This is refractive index.

Mitch Raemsch


photons interact with the electron shell cloud of probability, they
never reach the nucleus.
come on skippy



holog

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Old September 23rd 08 posted to rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
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On Sep 22, 2:45*pm, holog wrote:
BURT wrote:
Light passing nearest the nucleus is going the slowest.


This is refractive index.


Mitch Raemsch


photons interact with the electron shell cloud of probability, they
never reach the nucleus.
* come on skippy

holog


Transparency is when light doesn't interact with electrons and passes
through the entire atom's empty space.

In fussion gamma rays interact with the protons in the nucleus.
Protons both emit and absorb the Gamma rays.

Mitch Raemsch

MiItch Raemsch
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Old September 23rd 08 posted to rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
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Am Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:09:01 +0000 schrieb Sam Wormley
in hAVBk.300347$TT4.40531@attbi_s22:

holog wrote:

photons interact with the electron shell cloud of probability, they
never reach the nucleus.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photodisintegration


That web site has nothing to do with the index of refraction, which Mitch
Raemsch was trying to explain with his stupid statement. In that context
holog is right.

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Old September 23rd 08 posted to rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
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BURT wrote:

On Sep 22, 2:45 pm, holog wrote:

BURT wrote:

Light passing nearest the nucleus is going the slowest.


This is refractive index.


Mitch Raemsch


photons interact with the electron shell cloud of probability, they
never reach the nucleus.
come on skippy

holog



Transparency is when light doesn't interact with electrons and passes
through the entire atom's empty space.

In fussion gamma rays interact with the protons in the nucleus.
Protons both emit and absorb the Gamma rays.

Mitch Raemsch

MiItch Raemsch





the question is at what wave length(energy level) can a photon pass the
"electron shell" ?

holog

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Old September 23rd 08 posted to rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
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holog wrote:



BURT wrote:

On Sep 22, 2:45 pm, holog wrote:

BURT wrote:

Light passing nearest the nucleus is going the slowest.


This is refractive index.


Mitch Raemsch


photons interact with the electron shell cloud of probability, they
never reach the nucleus.
come on skippy

holog




Transparency is when light doesn't interact with electrons and passes
through the entire atom's empty space.

In fussion gamma rays interact with the protons in the nucleus.
Protons both emit and absorb the Gamma rays.

Mitch Raemsch

MiItch Raemsch






the question is at what wave length(energy level) can a photon pass the
"electron shell" ?

holog




and then at what wavelength can it pass through a proton , or is that
the limit? is that the boundary at which we are at ? ... accelerating
wave packets beyond their limit. thats all the LHC does, it creates
wave energy.



holog

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Old September 23rd 08 posted to rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
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Am Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:39:00 -0400 schrieb holog in
in sci.physics.relativity:

BURT wrote:

On Sep 22, 2:45 pm, holog wrote:

BURT wrote:

Light passing nearest the nucleus is going the slowest.

This is refractive index.

Mitch Raemsch

photons interact with the electron shell cloud of probability, they
never reach the nucleus.
come on skippy

holog



Transparency is when light doesn't interact with electrons and passes
through the entire atom's empty space.


This is the first time that I've seen where Mitch Raemsch said something
that was in accordance with reality. Maybe there's hope yet.

[...]
the question is at what wave length(energy level) can a photon pass the
"electron shell" ?

holog


The photon can pass through the "electron shell" even if its principle
quantum number n is right if it has the same spin number J as the electron
in that shell. For the photon to be absorbed by the electron, J has to be
different. (Note: J also has orientation info in it.)

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Old September 24th 08 posted to rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
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On Sep 22, 3:39*pm, holog wrote:
BURT wrote:
On Sep 22, 2:45 pm, holog wrote:


BURT wrote:


Light passing nearest the nucleus is going the slowest.


This is refractive index.


Mitch Raemsch


photons interact with the electron shell cloud of probability, they
never reach the nucleus.
*come on skippy


holog


Transparency is when light doesn't interact with electrons and passes
through the entire atom's empty space.


In fussion gamma rays interact with the protons in the nucleus.
Protons both emit and absorb the Gamma rays.


Mitch Raemsch


MiItch Raemsch


the question is at what wave length(energy level) can a photon pass the
"electron shell" ?

holog- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Any light wave that cannot be absorbed by the electrons can pass the
electron shells.

Mitch Raemsch
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Old September 25th 08 posted to rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
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BURT wrote:

On Sep 22, 3:39 pm, holog wrote:

BURT wrote:

On Sep 22, 2:45 pm, holog wrote:


BURT wrote:


Light passing nearest the nucleus is going the slowest.


This is refractive index.


Mitch Raemsch


photons interact with the electron shell cloud of probability, they
never reach the nucleus.
come on skippy


holog


Transparency is when light doesn't interact with electrons and passes
through the entire atom's empty space.


In fussion gamma rays interact with the protons in the nucleus.
Protons both emit and absorb the Gamma rays.


Mitch Raemsch


MiItch Raemsch


the question is at what wave length(energy level) can a photon pass the
"electron shell" ?

holog- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



Any light wave that cannot be absorbed by the electrons can pass the
electron shells.

Mitch Raemsch



when you say light I think of visible- infrared through ultraviolet-

the wavelengths are larger than an atom. they may not pass through but
around the atom being left "untouched".



holog

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Old September 25th 08 posted to rec.org.mensa,alt.sci.physics,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
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On Sep 24, 6:31*pm, holog wrote:
BURT wrote:
On Sep 22, 3:39 pm, holog wrote:


BURT wrote:


On Sep 22, 2:45 pm, holog wrote:


BURT wrote:


Light passing nearest the nucleus is going the slowest.


This is refractive index.


Mitch Raemsch


photons interact with the electron shell cloud of probability, they
never reach the nucleus.
come on skippy


holog


Transparency is when light doesn't interact with electrons and passes
through the entire atom's empty space.


In fussion gamma rays interact with the protons in the nucleus.
Protons both emit and absorb the Gamma rays.


Mitch Raemsch


MiItch Raemsch


the question is at what wave length(energy level) can a photon pass the
"electron shell" ?


holog- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Any light wave that cannot be absorbed by the electrons can pass the
electron shells.


Mitch Raemsch


when you say light I think of visible- *infrared through ultraviolet-

the wavelengths are larger than an atom. they may not pass through but
around the atom being left "untouched".

holog- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I think they can pass through the empty space inside the atom.

Mitch Raemsch
 




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