Light in the atom

BURT wrote:

On Sep 24, 6:31 pm, holog wrote:

BURT wrote:

On Sep 22, 3:39 pm, holog wrote:

BURT wrote:

On Sep 22, 2:45 pm, holog wrote:

BURT wrote:

Light passing nearest the nucleus is going the slowest.

This is refractive index.

Mitch Raemsch

photons interact with the electron shell cloud of probability, they
never reach the nucleus.
come on skippy

holog

Transparency is when light doesn't interact with electrons and passes
through the entire atom's empty space.

In fussion gamma rays interact with the protons in the nucleus.
Protons both emit and absorb the Gamma rays.

Mitch Raemsch

MiItch Raemsch

the question is at what wave length(energy level) can a photon pass the
"electron shell" ?

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Any light wave that cannot be absorbed by the electrons can pass the
electron shells.

Mitch Raemsch

when you say light I think of visible- infrared through ultraviolet-

the wavelengths are larger than an atom. they may not pass through but
around the atom being left "untouched".

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I think they can pass through the empty space inside the atom.

Mitch Raemsch

light(visable) is measured in nanometers


atomic radii is measured in picometers

atomic nuclei is measured in femtometers


each a factor of a thousand, a wave of light will travel across a single
atom.



whether the atom is effected depends on resonance,


your reference to refraction depends on something larger than a single atom.

multiple atoms(a compound) "share" electrons creating a field effect.

it is this field which the photons interact, either being reflected,
refracted(skip) or absorbed.

in the case of refraction some of the photonic energy is transferred to
the field decreasing the energy of the photon.


holog

holog wrote:


BURT wrote:

On Sep 24, 6:31 pm, holog wrote:

BURT wrote:

On Sep 22, 3:39 pm, holog wrote:

BURT wrote:

On Sep 22, 2:45 pm, holog wrote:

BURT wrote:

Light passing nearest the nucleus is going the slowest.

This is refractive index.

Mitch Raemsch

photons interact with the electron shell cloud of probability, they
never reach the nucleus.
come on skippy

holog

Transparency is when light doesn't interact with electrons and passes
through the entire atom's empty space.

In fussion gamma rays interact with the protons in the nucleus.
Protons both emit and absorb the Gamma rays.

Mitch Raemsch

MiItch Raemsch

the question is at what wave length(energy level) can a photon pass
the
"electron shell" ?

holog- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Any light wave that cannot be absorbed by the electrons can pass the
electron shells.

Mitch Raemsch

when you say light I think of visible- infrared through ultraviolet-

the wavelengths are larger than an atom. they may not pass through but
around the atom being left "untouched".

holog- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I think they can pass through the empty space inside the atom.

Mitch Raemsch

light(visable) is measured in nanometers


atomic radii is measured in picometers

atomic nuclei is measured in femtometers


each a factor of a thousand, a wave of light will travel across a single
atom.



whether the atom is effected depends on resonance,


your reference to refraction depends on something larger than a single
atom.

multiple atoms(a compound) "share" electrons creating a field effect.

it is this field which the photons interact, either being reflected,
refracted(skip) or absorbed.

in the case of refraction some of the photonic energy is transferred to
the field decreasing the energy of the photon.


holog




Common sense suggests that the scale of this particular universe, the
big one, the one out there, the one we see in the sky, is defined by the
speed of light that we identify with as 186,000mps.
Meanwhile, the stuff that goes on at sub-atomic level might perhaps
operate at a higher speed. If it does, then we only catch a glimpse of
stuff going on when it happens for example to approach us, to flash by
and engage with our frequency defined by the speed of light. This is
what I understand as the straightforward explanation for the electron
"cloud of probability", now you see it, now you don't.
And sometimes a bit flies out, in which case it must necessarily drop
below 186,000mps to do so.
Equally, outside this big known universe in the sky, far beyond, stuff
will be happening at a much slower rate. This would accord with the
theory that we are living in a world of atoms, so far as "they" in the
even bigger universe are concerned.
Seems reasonable. Is there any evidence to suggest that I've got this
wildly wrong?