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  #31  
Old July 7th 08 posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Mitch Raemsch
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On Jul 6, 7:37*am, Enkidu wrote:
Mitch Raemsch wrote :





On Jul 5, 8:04*pm, Enkidu wrote:
Mitch Raemsch wrote in
news:7c3d3ceb-
:


I am not sure why I crossed posted there. I suppose Timeless
physics is suggestive of a timeless God.


Both ill-defined.


--
Enkidu AA#2165 *
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA


"That was amazing! Did you have to swear a circus oath to never
reveal th

e
source of your clown powers?"
* * * * * -The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius


Acceleration without a rate is timeless physics.


Acceleration is (delta V)/(delta t). You can't have acceleration withour
time unless you rediefine the word.

Timeless God. God exists without time.


Words without meaning. You have no idead what "exists without time" could
mean, or if it can mean anything. You're doing the same thing the new-age
health quacks do - throwing out words you don't understand to impress the
masses. Claims like "realigns your personal magnetic monopoles" make as
much sense as you do.

--
Enkidu AA#2165 *
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA

"'Just say no' has done as much for drugs and sex as 'have a nice day'
has for depression."
* * *-Dr. E. Tyson- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I am saying what Einstein said. Gravity is equivalent to acceleration.
Except that I add unmoving timeless acceleration.

Mithc Reamsch
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  #32  
Old July 7th 08 posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
jemcd
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On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 15:16:55 -0700 (PDT), Mitch Raemsch
wrote:

On Jul 6, 7:37*am, Enkidu wrote:
Mitch Raemsch wrote :





On Jul 5, 8:04*pm, Enkidu wrote:
Mitch Raemsch wrote in
news:7c3d3ceb-
:


I am not sure why I crossed posted there. I suppose Timeless
physics is suggestive of a timeless God.


Both ill-defined.


--
Enkidu AA#2165 *
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA


"That was amazing! Did you have to swear a circus oath to never
reveal th
e
source of your clown powers?"
* * * * * -The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius


Acceleration without a rate is timeless physics.


Acceleration is (delta V)/(delta t). You can't have acceleration withour
time unless you rediefine the word.

Timeless God. God exists without time.


Words without meaning. You have no idead what "exists without time" could
mean, or if it can mean anything. You're doing the same thing the new-age
health quacks do - throwing out words you don't understand to impress the
masses. Claims like "realigns your personal magnetic monopoles" make as
much sense as you do.

--
Enkidu AA#2165 *
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA

"'Just say no' has done as much for drugs and sex as 'have a nice day'
has for depression."
* * *-Dr. E. Tyson- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I am saying what Einstein said. Gravity is equivalent to acceleration.
Except that I add unmoving timeless acceleration.


Go ahead and throw in heatless fire, lightless incandescense and
thoughtless ponderance. Just trying to help, you can take the credit.



Mithc Reamsch

  #33  
Old July 7th 08 posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Enkidu
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Default Timeless Physics

Mitch Raemsch wrote in
:

On Jul 6, 7:37*am, Enkidu wrote:
Mitch Raemsch wrote
innews:1ac96236-3f9

:





On Jul 5, 8:04*pm, Enkidu wrote:
Mitch Raemsch wrote in
news:7c3d3ceb-
:


I am not sure why I crossed posted there. I suppose Timeless
physics is suggestive of a timeless God.


Both ill-defined.


--
Enkidu AA#2165 *
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA


"That was amazing! Did you have to swear a circus oath to never
reveal th
e
source of your clown powers?"
* * * * * -The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius


Acceleration without a rate is timeless physics.


Acceleration is (delta V)/(delta t). You can't have acceleration
withour time unless you rediefine the word.

Timeless God. God exists without time.


Words without meaning. You have no idead what "exists without time"
could mean, or if it can mean anything. You're doing the same thing
the new-age health quacks do - throwing out words you don't
understand to impress the masses. Claims like "realigns your personal
magnetic monopoles" make as much sense as you do.

--
Enkidu AA#2165 *
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA

"'Just say no' has done as much for drugs and sex as 'have a nice
day' has for depression."
* * *-Dr. E. Tyson- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I am saying what Einstein said. Gravity is equivalent to acceleration.
Except that I add unmoving timeless acceleration.


"Timeless" is a meaningless word until you rigorously define it.
Acceleration is defined as a chenge in velocity per unit time. You cannot
have acceleration without time any more than you can have a five sided
quadrilateral.

--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA

Eskimo: "If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?"
Priest: "No, not if you did not know."
Eskimo: "Then why did you tell me?"
  #34  
Old July 7th 08 posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Enkidu
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Default Timeless Physics

jemcd wrote in :

thoughtless ponderance.


He's got that one mastered.

--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA




The sermon was based on what he claimed was a well-known fact, that there
were no Atheists or freethinkers in foxholes. I asked Jack what he thought
of the sermon afterwards, and he said, "There's a Chaplain who never fought
before on the front line."
-Kurt Vonnegut, "Hocus Pocus" (1990)
  #35  
Old July 7th 08 posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Mitch Raemsch
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Posts: 850
Default Timeless Physics

On Jul 6, 3:35*pm, Enkidu wrote:
Mitch Raemsch wrote :





On Jul 6, 7:37*am, Enkidu wrote:
Mitch Raemsch wrote
innews:1ac96236-3f9

:


On Jul 5, 8:04*pm, Enkidu wrote:
Mitch Raemsch wrote in
news:7c3d3ceb-
:


I am not sure why I crossed posted there. I suppose Timeless
physics is suggestive of a timeless God.


Both ill-defined.


--
Enkidu AA#2165 *
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA


"That was amazing! Did you have to swear a circus oath to never
reveal th
e
source of your clown powers?"
* * * * * -The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius


Acceleration without a rate is timeless physics.


Acceleration is (delta V)/(delta t). You can't have acceleration
withour time unless you rediefine the word.


Timeless God. God exists without time.


Words without meaning. You have no idead what "exists without time"
could mean, or if it can mean anything. You're doing the same thing
the new-age health quacks do - throwing out words you don't
understand to impress the masses. Claims like "realigns your personal
magnetic monopoles" make as much sense as you do.


--
Enkidu AA#2165 *
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA


"'Just say no' has done as much for drugs and sex as 'have a nice
day' has for depression."
* * *-Dr. E. Tyson- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I am saying what Einstein said. Gravity is equivalent to acceleration.
Except that I add unmoving timeless acceleration.


"Timeless" is a meaningless word until you rigorously define it.
Acceleration is defined as a chenge in velocity per unit time. You cannot
have acceleration without time any more than you can have a five sided
quadrilateral.


Instantaneous acceleration doesn't require time.

Mitch Raemsch


--
Enkidu AA#2165 *
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA

Eskimo: "If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?"
Priest: "No, not if you did not know."
Eskimo: "Then why did you tell me?"- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


  #36  
Old July 7th 08 posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Enkidu
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Posts: 95
Default Timeless Physics

Mitch Raemsch wrote in
:

On Jul 6, 3:35*pm, Enkidu wrote:
Mitch Raemsch wrote
innews:9c8cc7e6-d2f

:





On Jul 6, 7:37*am, Enkidu wrote:
Mitch Raemsch wrote
innews:1ac96236-3f9
:


On Jul 5, 8:04*pm, Enkidu wrote:
Mitch Raemsch wrote in
news:7c3d3ceb-
:


I am not sure why I crossed posted there. I suppose Timeless
physics is suggestive of a timeless God.


Both ill-defined.


--
Enkidu AA#2165 *
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA


"That was amazing! Did you have to swear a circus oath to never
reveal th
e
source of your clown powers?"
* * * * * -The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius


Acceleration without a rate is timeless physics.


Acceleration is (delta V)/(delta t). You can't have acceleration
withour time unless you rediefine the word.


Timeless God. God exists without time.


Words without meaning. You have no idead what "exists without
time" could mean, or if it can mean anything. You're doing the
same thing the new-age health quacks do - throwing out words you
don't understand to impress the masses. Claims like "realigns your
personal magnetic monopoles" make as much sense as you do.


--
Enkidu AA#2165 *
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA


"'Just say no' has done as much for drugs and sex as 'have a nice
day' has for depression."
* * *-Dr. E. Tyson- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I am saying what Einstein said. Gravity is equivalent to
acceleration. Except that I add unmoving timeless acceleration.


"Timeless" is a meaningless word until you rigorously define it.
Acceleration is defined as a chenge in velocity per unit time. You
cannot have acceleration without time any more than you can have a
five sided quadrilateral.


Instantaneous acceleration doesn't require time.


It's still dv/dt. The units of acceleration are m/s^2. I know it's tough
to try to discuss deep topics when you're to lazy to learn a little math
and physics, but that's life.

--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA




Most of the greatest evils that man has inflicted upon man have come
through people feeling quite certain about something which, in fact, was
false.
-- Bertrand Russell
  #37  
Old July 7th 08 posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Mitch Raemsch
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Posts: 850
Default Timeless Physics

On Jul 6, 3:47*pm, Enkidu wrote:
Mitch Raemsch wrote :





On Jul 6, 3:35*pm, Enkidu wrote:
Mitch Raemsch wrote
innews:9c8cc7e6-d2f

:


On Jul 6, 7:37*am, Enkidu wrote:
Mitch Raemsch wrote
innews:1ac96236-3f9
:


On Jul 5, 8:04*pm, Enkidu wrote:
Mitch Raemsch wrote in
news:7c3d3ceb-
:


I am not sure why I crossed posted there. I suppose Timeless
physics is suggestive of a timeless God.


Both ill-defined.


--
Enkidu AA#2165 *
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA


"That was amazing! Did you have to swear a circus oath to never
reveal th
e
source of your clown powers?"
* * * * * -The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius


Acceleration without a rate is timeless physics.


Acceleration is (delta V)/(delta t). You can't have acceleration
withour time unless you rediefine the word.


Timeless God. God exists without time.


Words without meaning. You have no idead what "exists without
time" could mean, or if it can mean anything. You're doing the
same thing the new-age health quacks do - throwing out words you
don't understand to impress the masses. Claims like "realigns your
personal magnetic monopoles" make as much sense as you do.


--
Enkidu AA#2165 *
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA


"'Just say no' has done as much for drugs and sex as 'have a nice
day' has for depression."
* * *-Dr. E. Tyson- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I am saying what Einstein said. Gravity is equivalent to
acceleration. Except that I add unmoving timeless acceleration.


"Timeless" is a meaningless word until you rigorously define it.
Acceleration is defined as a chenge in velocity per unit time. You
cannot have acceleration without time any more than you can have a
five sided quadrilateral.


Instantaneous acceleration doesn't require time.

It's still dv/dt. The units of acceleration are m/s^2. I know it's tough
to try to discuss deep topics when you're to lazy to learn a little math
and physics, but that's life.


NO. Instantaneous acceleration involves no time elapse.


Enkidu AA#2165 *
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA

Most of the greatest evils that man has inflicted upon man have come
through people feeling quite certain about something which, in fact, was
false.
* * * * * -- Bertrand Russell- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


  #38  
Old July 7th 08 posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Enkidu
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Posts: 95
Default Timeless Physics

Mitch Raemsch wrote in
:

I am saying what Einstein said. Gravity is equivalent to
acceleration. Except that I add unmoving timeless acceleration.


"Timeless" is a meaningless word until you rigorously define it.
Acceleration is defined as a chenge in velocity per unit time. You
cannot have acceleration without time any more than you can have a
five sided quadrilateral.


Instantaneous acceleration doesn't require time.

It's still dv/dt. The units of acceleration are m/s^2. I know it's
tough to try to discuss deep topics when you're to lazy to learn a
little math and physics, but that's life.


NO. Instantaneous acceleration involves no time elapse.


Did you take a physics class? Assuming you did, have you taken a caluclus
class? Assuming you did, let me remind you that acceleration (in one
dimension) is defined as (delta v)/(delta t). If v is a function of t,
then v varies with time. To find the velocity at any time t, you take the
limit as t approches zero. That's dv/dt. t does not equal 0, it's a
limit. The acceleration has units. Those units are m/s^2, or meters per
second per second. You cannot separate acceleration from time.
Instantaneous acceleration is still m/s^2.

--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA







"Censorship of anything, at any time, in any place, on whatever
pretense, has always been and always be the last resort of the boob and
the bigot."
-Eugene Gladstone O'Neill, American playwright (1888-1953)
  #39  
Old July 7th 08 posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Sanforized
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Mitch Raemsch wrote:
On Jul 6, 3:47 pm, Enkidu wrote:


I am saying what Einstein said. Gravity is equivalent to
acceleration. Except that I add unmoving timeless acceleration.


"Timeless" is a meaningless word until you rigorously define it.
Acceleration is defined as a chenge in velocity per unit time. You
cannot have acceleration without time any more than you can have a
five sided quadrilateral.


Instantaneous acceleration doesn't require time.


Instant acceleration, if there is such a thing, requires
that the thing being accelerated have no mass.

We create such things as waves/photons with no mass and
release them at lightspeed velocity on a regular basis,
but as far as accelerating it goes you're merely screwing
around with definitions as has been discussed all day.

Boring!
  #40  
Old July 7th 08 posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Mitch Raemsch
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Default Timeless Physics

On Jul 6, 4:25*pm, Enkidu wrote:
Mitch Raemsch wrote :

I am saying what Einstein said. Gravity is equivalent to
acceleration. Except that I add unmoving timeless acceleration.


"Timeless" is a meaningless word until you rigorously define it.
Acceleration is defined as a chenge in velocity per unit time. You
cannot have acceleration without time any more than you can have a
five sided quadrilateral.


Instantaneous acceleration doesn't require time.


It's still dv/dt. The units of acceleration are m/s^2. I know it's
tough to try to discuss deep topics when you're to lazy to learn a
little math and physics, but that's life.


NO. Instantaneous acceleration involves no time elapse.


Did you take a physics class? Assuming you did, have you taken a caluclus
class? Assuming you did, let me remind you that acceleration (in one
dimension) is defined as (delta v)/(delta t). If v is a function of t,
then v varies with time. To find the velocity at any time t, you take the
limit as t approches zero. That's dv/dt. t does not equal 0, it's a
limit. The acceleration has units. Those units are m/s^2, or meters per
second per second. You cannot separate acceleration from time.
Instantaneous acceleration is still m/s^2.

--
Enkidu AA#2165 *
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA

"Censorship of anything, at any time, in any place, on whatever
pretense, has always been and always be the last resort of the boob and
the bigot."
* * * * * -Eugene Gladstone O'Neill, American playwright (1888-1953)


An infinitesimal of time for an acceleration.

 




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