On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 03:29:58 +0000 (UTC),
(Michael Moroney) wrote:

George Hammond writes:

On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:49:40 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)"
wrote:

[Doug, unverified Physics Phd claimant]
Or 12 assuming that the Greeks did not know the difference
between 12 and 13 as you have claimed earlier.

[Hammond]
Look, I already told you 3 times, the only EXACT
scientific fact is that there are EXACTLY 13-2nd ORDER
EIGENVECTORS, extracted by mainframe computers.

[Michael Moroney]
OK, EXACTLY 13 2nd order eigenvectors (however you redefine 'eigenvector').
Not 14, not 12, but EXACTLY 13. Got it.


[Hammond]
Whaddau mean "redefine eigenvector"? An eigenvector is a
principle axis of a matrix ellipsoid, whether it's in
quantum mechanics, Psychometry Factor Analysis or the moment
of Inertia in Mechanics, makes no difference. An
eigenvector is an eigenvector.
The Pagan "gods" are 2nd order psychometry eigenvectors
caused by the cubic anatomical symmetry cleavage of the
brain. They form a CUBE.


[Hammond]
The ancients didn't know what an eigenvector is, or that
the 13-2nd orders are CUBICALLY intercorrelated. Hammond
discovered that (1994) They just took an educated guess and
called it an even DOZEN (the Greek Dodekatheon so called).
They were right to within 7.7%, pretty good for ancient
science.


[Michael Moroney]
Oh, that's rich.

[Hammond]
Rich; I don't know what food stamps are, never mind
money.


[Michael Moroney]
7.7% "pretty good for ancient science". Let's imagine,
just for a moment, that the ancient Greeks built the Parthenon with some
of the Doric columns 12 meters tall and others 13 meters tall. The 12m
and 13m columns all mixed up. That would be "pretty good for ancient
science", right? Only 7.7% off, right? Wrong - if they ever did that,
the Parthenon would look pathetic. Instead of the ancient Greeks being
revered by western society, they'd be the laughing stock of the ancient
world! I'm laughing just thinking about it!


[Hammond]
Cut the **** Moroney, measureing something with a ruler
like the Parthenon is kid stuff.
Fact is Eratosthenes estimated the Earth's circumference
around 240 BCE. The Sun was directly overhead in Syene at
the summer solstice but in Alexandria it still cast a
shadow. Using the distance and angles he estimated the
Earth's circumference. Eratosthenes' figure has an error of
around five to ten percent.
So "7.7%" was par for the course in advanced scientific
measurement in ancient Greece.
The fact that they could estimate "God" to 7.7% is a
phenomenal scientific achievement by comparison!



[Hammond]
So you'll have to find some other trivia to rag on, I've
beaten your "12 vs. 13" objection to death.


[Michael Moroney]
You're the one who makes it a big deal about your claim that there are
"EXACTLY 13 2nd order Eigenvectors". Well guess what. 12 is NOT "exactly
13".


[Hammond]
Like I said, the Greeks were 7.7% off, same as their
measuremet of the Earth's circumference.


BTW, 12 and 13 are not within 3 significant figures of each other. (do
you even know what that means?) Try 1 sig fig.


[Hammond]
I've got 2 degrees in Physics from accredited
universities in Massachusetts, that certifies that I KNOW
what it means.
Modern Science has proved that there are 13-2nd order
eigenvectors EXACTLY (because they form a Cube)...... it was
the ANCIENT GREEKS who were off by 7.7%.... because they
simply took an educated guess of a dozen. THERE ACTUALLY
are 13 so called "Olympian gods".
Incidentally, Hippocrates was EXACTLY RIGHT about the
4-Humors, because again, modern science has proven that
there are EXACTLY 4-3rd ORDER EIGENVECTORS. Today they are
known as "Matthew, Mark, Luke and John" in Religion.
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"George Hammond" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:07:44 +0100, "marc"
wrote:

"George Hammond" wrote in message
. ..

CLEARLY anyone with half a brain in his head..

And even more clearly, anyone with more than half a brain in his head
immediately recognises Hammond's irrational spewing as emanating from a
severely deranged mind. Hammond must be a rare example of a literal
half-wit.

Marc


Gee whiz, is Marc really Cram spelled backwards?

No, it is definitive scientific proof that my name scientifically proves
that my name scientifically reflects the scientific relativistic curvature
of the alphabet to 4 significant letters which is scientifically causally
identical to scientifically calculated cubic eigenvectors of scientific
numerical quantification thereby scientifically proving that God has 4
letters to 3 or 4 significant letters thereby scientifically proving that
humans came into being once they acquired the ability to count to 4, or 3,
thereby scientifically proving the existence of an invisible world that can
only be scientifically detected by scientifically arranging the letters in a
square as the Greeks did to 3 or 4 significant letters thereby
scientifically proving that the invisible world exists due the subjective
curvature of the end of Jesus' beard thereby scientifically proving the
existence of 12 or 13 (scientifically rounded to the most convenient value)
follicle gods as scientifically proven by the scientifically psychometric
FACT that the gospel of Matthew has 4 letters as do all the gods of Olympus
(scientifically rounded to the most convenient number) which therefore
scientifically proves that the growth deficit of the relativistic curvature
of the alphabet can only be perceived by those who can see the invisible
world which has been scientifically proved by analysis of the Motion
Sickness of the 12th or 13th Eigenvector of the cubic structure of
personality which has been scientifically empirically verified to 100%
accuracy within the scientific parameters of the scientifically proved
psychometric definition of 'one dozen'. Surely even you can see that 3 (God)
x 4 (Cram) = 13 as scientifically rounded to 12 as allowed by the scientific
cubic eigenvector analysis of the Egypto-Greco-Roman Pantheon.

I have therefore scientifically proved the scientifically overwhelming
scientific proof of my scientific proof and if you cannot see this then you
are not worthy to discuss it with me.

Marc == Cram

"George Hammond" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 03:29:58 +0000 (UTC),
(Michael Moroney) wrote:

George Hammond writes:

On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:49:40 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)"
wrote:

[Doug, unverified Physics Phd claimant]
Or 12 assuming that the Greeks did not know the difference
between 12 and 13 as you have claimed earlier.

[Hammond]
Look, I already told you 3 times, the only EXACT
scientific fact is that there are EXACTLY 13-2nd ORDER
EIGENVECTORS, extracted by mainframe computers.

[Michael Moroney]
OK, EXACTLY 13 2nd order eigenvectors (however you redefine
'eigenvector').
Not 14, not 12, but EXACTLY 13. Got it.


[Hammond]
Whaddau mean "redefine eigenvector"? An eigenvector is a
principle axis of a matrix ellipsoid, whether it's in
quantum mechanics, Psychometry Factor Analysis or the moment
of Inertia in Mechanics, makes no difference. An
eigenvector is an eigenvector.
The Pagan "gods" are 2nd order psychometry eigenvectors
caused by the cubic anatomical symmetry cleavage of the
brain. They form a CUBE.


[Hammond]
The ancients didn't know what an eigenvector is, or that
the 13-2nd orders are CUBICALLY intercorrelated. Hammond
discovered that (1994) They just took an educated guess and
called it an even DOZEN (the Greek Dodekatheon so called).
They were right to within 7.7%, pretty good for ancient
science.


[Michael Moroney]
Oh, that's rich.

[Hammond]
Rich; I don't know what food stamps are, never mind
money.


[Michael Moroney]
7.7% "pretty good for ancient science". Let's imagine,
just for a moment, that the ancient Greeks built the Parthenon with some
of the Doric columns 12 meters tall and others 13 meters tall. The 12m
and 13m columns all mixed up. That would be "pretty good for ancient
science", right? Only 7.7% off, right? Wrong - if they ever did that,
the Parthenon would look pathetic. Instead of the ancient Greeks being
revered by western society, they'd be the laughing stock of the ancient
world! I'm laughing just thinking about it!


[Hammond]
Cut the **** Moroney, measureing something with a ruler
like the Parthenon is kid stuff.
Fact is Eratosthenes estimated the Earth's circumference
around 240 BCE. The Sun was directly overhead in Syene at
the summer solstice but in Alexandria it still cast a
shadow. Using the distance and angles he estimated the
Earth's circumference. Eratosthenes' figure has an error of
around five to ten percent.
So "7.7%" was par for the course in advanced scientific
measurement in ancient Greece.
The fact that they could estimate "God" to 7.7% is a
phenomenal scientific achievement by comparison!



[Hammond]
So you'll have to find some other trivia to rag on, I've
beaten your "12 vs. 13" objection to death.


[Michael Moroney]
You're the one who makes it a big deal about your claim that there are
"EXACTLY 13 2nd order Eigenvectors". Well guess what. 12 is NOT "exactly
13".


[Hammond]
Like I said, the Greeks were 7.7% off, same as their
measuremet of the Earth's circumference.


BTW, 12 and 13 are not within 3 significant figures of each other. (do
you even know what that means?) Try 1 sig fig.


[Hammond]
I've got 2 degrees in Physics from accredited
universities in Massachusetts, that certifies that I KNOW
what it means.

You MAY have had (at one time) two degrees.
Since you demean and insult others who have BETTER degrees - your mean
nothing!

It is blatantly obviously that the psuchotic nature of your bellowings and
posting has completely overwhen any past educational experi3ence you may
have had.


IOW - when your insane, the grades you made in school don't mount up to
****!




Modern Science has proved that there are 13-2nd order
eigenvectors EXACTLY (because they form a Cube)...... it was
the ANCIENT GREEKS who were off by 7.7%.... because they
simply took an educated guess of a dozen. THERE ACTUALLY
are 13 so called "Olympian gods".
Incidentally, Hippocrates was EXACTLY RIGHT about the
4-Humors, because again, modern science has proven that
there are EXACTLY 4-3rd ORDER EIGENVECTORS. Today they are
known as "Matthew, Mark, Luke and John" in Religion.

Modern science did not such thing!
They do NOT claim "religion" is science!

George Hammond wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 03:29:58 +0000 (UTC),
(Michael Moroney) wrote:

George Hammond writes:

On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:49:40 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)"
wrote:
[Doug, unverified Physics Phd claimant]
Or 12 assuming that the Greeks did not know the difference
between 12 and 13 as you have claimed earlier.

[Hammond]
Look, I already told you 3 times, the only EXACT
scientific fact is that there are EXACTLY 13-2nd ORDER
EIGENVECTORS, extracted by mainframe computers.
[Michael Moroney]
OK, EXACTLY 13 2nd order eigenvectors (however you redefine 'eigenvector').
Not 14, not 12, but EXACTLY 13. Got it.


[Hammond]
Whaddau mean "redefine eigenvector"? An eigenvector is a
principle axis of a matrix ellipsoid, whether it's in
quantum mechanics, Psychometry Factor Analysis or the moment
of Inertia in Mechanics, makes no difference. An
eigenvector is an eigenvector.
The Pagan "gods" are 2nd order psychometry eigenvectors
caused by the cubic anatomical symmetry cleavage of the
brain. They form a CUBE.

You keep making these wild humorous and unsupported assumptions.

[Hammond]
The ancients didn't know what an eigenvector is, or that
the 13-2nd orders are CUBICALLY intercorrelated. Hammond
discovered that (1994) They just took an educated guess and
called it an even DOZEN (the Greek Dodekatheon so called).
They were right to within 7.7%, pretty good for ancient
science.

12 did not equal 13 even in Greece. Look, they knew how to
count. It does not mean your conclusion is good to 7.7%, it
means that it is wrong.

[Michael Moroney]
Oh, that's rich.

[Hammond]
Rich; I don't know what food stamps are, never mind
money.

[Michael Moroney]
7.7% "pretty good for ancient science". Let's imagine,
just for a moment, that the ancient Greeks built the Parthenon with some
of the Doric columns 12 meters tall and others 13 meters tall. The 12m
and 13m columns all mixed up. That would be "pretty good for ancient
science", right? Only 7.7% off, right? Wrong - if they ever did that,
the Parthenon would look pathetic. Instead of the ancient Greeks being
revered by western society, they'd be the laughing stock of the ancient
world! I'm laughing just thinking about it!


[Hammond]
Cut the **** Moroney, measureing something with a ruler
like the Parthenon is kid stuff.
Fact is Eratosthenes estimated the Earth's circumference
around 240 BCE. The Sun was directly overhead in Syene at
the summer solstice but in Alexandria it still cast a
shadow. Using the distance and angles he estimated the
Earth's circumference. Eratosthenes' figure has an error of
around five to ten percent.
So "7.7%" was par for the course in advanced scientific
measurement in ancient Greece.
The fact that they could estimate "God" to 7.7% is a
phenomenal scientific achievement by comparison!

Another bizarre assumption. If "god" is a thing, there is no
percentage. You either have the real one or you do not.


[Hammond]
So you'll have to find some other trivia to rag on, I've
beaten your "12 vs. 13" objection to death.

[Michael Moroney]
You're the one who makes it a big deal about your claim that there are
"EXACTLY 13 2nd order Eigenvectors". Well guess what. 12 is NOT "exactly
13".


[Hammond]
Like I said, the Greeks were 7.7% off, same as their
measuremet of the Earth's circumference.

BTW, 12 and 13 are not within 3 significant figures of each other. (do
you even know what that means?) Try 1 sig fig.


[Hammond]
I've got 2 degrees in Physics from accredited
universities in Massachusetts, that certifies that I KNOW
what it means.

As with the rest of your conclusions, this is completely wrong.
It means you did not get thrown out before that point. What
you learned or remembered is irrelevant.

Modern Science has proved

No, Hammond has assumed without proof.

that there are 13-2nd order
eigenvectors EXACTLY (because they form a Cube)...... it was
the ANCIENT GREEKS who were off by 7.7%....

Because you assume they could not count.

because they
simply took an educated guess of a dozen.

So you believe they created their gods to fit your future
theory but were to primitive to get the number right?

THERE ACTUALLY
are 13 so called "Olympian gods".
Incidentally, Hippocrates was EXACTLY RIGHT about the
4-Humors, because again, modern science has proven that
there are EXACTLY 4-3rd ORDER EIGENVECTORS. Today they are
known as "Matthew, Mark, Luke and John" in Religion.

These four are the names of books in the new testament. These
books were written at different times by different people.
Luke and John were written from 100-200 years later by writers
in what is now Turkey where Paul went to establish christianity.
The names of authors spread over a few hundred years is not
likely to have any scientific importance. You will have to
look for something else to push.

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On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:01:19 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)"
wrote:


[Doug, anonymouss unverified Physics PhD claimer]

you have shown no
connection with a god. This is just you hoping that no
one will notice that this assuming what you want to prove.


[Hammond]
Your answer to that FALSE STATEMENT is posted below, and
you haven't answered it:


[Hammond]
You're so obviously incompetent its pathetic. Look, the
basic plot, as in any scientific investigation, is to
itemize the characteristics of the phenomenon, and then see
if there is any known simple scientific mechanism which
would explain it.
In this case this means itimizing the CENTRAL CLAIMS of
Religion (take Biblical religion for instance) and seeing if
the discovered mechanism (curvature of subjective spacetime)
COMPELLINGLY AND QUANTITATIVELY EXPLAINS EACH
AND EVERY ITEM.
The SPOG scientifically and quantitatively explains the
following 16 (central and comprehensive) items which
characterize Religion:

1. Why there physically exists an "invisible world"
known as "Heaven" which is similar to Earth but
is a paradise.
(Because the Growth Deficit reduces mental
speed and thus reduces the Fourier cutoff
frequency of visual movement) This can be
easily measured directly by theMotion Picture
Fusion Frequency, which increases directly with
gross brain growth)
2. Why God is an "invisible man" who lives there
and is all powerful and rules the actual (visible)
world from there.
("God" is the perfect fully grown man, hence the
part of us that is latent, or ungrown, is called
the "invisible God", also the "Unconscious mind")
3. Why this God can effect miracles which transcend
the (known) laws of Physics.
(Because, a change in Repression causes a
dramatic change in Curvature of subjective
spacetime suddenly making more of reality
visible).
4. Why Jesus said "God is a spirit" Jn 4:24
(This is confirmed by the SPOG which shows that
"God" is the unconscious mind, which is a
"spirit")
5. Why historically Religion has evolved from
Polytheism to Monotheism.
(The SPOG proves that there are 4 orders of
eigenvectors, which is a "hierarchy of gods".
the entire history of Religion is accounted for
as a successive discovery of the orders from
1st=(demigods), 2nd=(Olympian gods), 3rd=
(4-Gospel Saints), 4th=(God of Monotheism)
6. Why Christianity says the world is transforming
itself into Heaven and will actually complete this
at a date known as "Kingdom Come"... or the
"end of the world".
(Because the Secular Trend curve in Human
Growth is a Sigmoidal Logistics curve (S-curve)
and the final plateau is 100% growth of
the individual, or "Kingdom Come")
7. Why there is such a thing as "Eternal Life".
(Because full growth means flat subjective
spacetime.. no time dilation.. aka eternal time)
8. Why it is believed that Jesus was the physical
"incarnation of God"
(Because, nominally Jesus was a "fully grown
specimen". Of course we know this wasn't
actually possible, but in fact he must have
been an impressive specimen to conduct
such a startling public ministry.)
9. Why the Cross for some reason is the central
symbol of (Western) Religion.
(Because the human body is an "axial quadrature"
and the brain actually "cubic" causing a cross
structure (Cartesian structure) of Personality)
10. Why for some reason our main canonical text is
written in 4 identical versions known as the
"4-Gospel Canon".
(Because the Structural Model is CUBIC,
represented as a square; 4 Gospel Canon
represents the 4 canonical personalities
of Man... cf. the Bicameral/2 Party system)
11. How God "created the world" only a matter of
"thousands" of years ago (Genesis) not "billions"
of years ago (Big Bang) as Science believes.
(Because subjective spacetime only came into
being when Man came into being 200,000 years
ago, causing the Biblical Creation).
12. Why God created man "in his own image".
(Because God is the invisible (fully grown)
version of Man).
13. Why there is a "Trinity of God" and what it is,
functionally or scientifically speaking.
(the Trinity is simply the cybernetic feedback
loop (input, output, feedback) describing the
operation of the Father (invisible man), Son
actual Man, and feedback (UNCS mind) that
transforms the latter into the former).
14. Why there are (approximately) 13 gods in the
Egypto-Greco-Roman pantheon.
(Because the 2nd orders are caused by the
13 symmetry axes of the cubic str. of the brain).
15. Why there are exactly 4-gospel Saints named
Matthew, mark, Luke, John.
(Because the Cubic str. of Personality can be
represented by a section through the Cube,
yielding the 4 canonical personalities of Man)
16. Why there are 30 odd "lesser demigods" in Hinduism.
(Because there are 30 1st-order eigenvectors
caused by myriad lower level brain structures;
not geometrically intercorrelated)


THIS OVERWHELMING, COMPREHENSIVE EXPLANATION OF THE
ENTIRE BODY OF CLASSICAL RELIGION, BY A SIMPLE RELATIVISTIC
CURVATURE MECHANISM, IS PRIMA FACIE THE WORLD'S FIRST AND
ONLY BONA FIDE "SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD".
Now you can sit there and giggle like a flat footed fat
ass academy boy all you want, but it certainly is NOT
convincing.
either show us some of your scintillating PhD forensic
scientist genius a la ronald Reagan, or go back to work
designing Widgets at Quintessential Trinkets where you
belong.

snip argumentative no content crap

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George Hammond wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:01:19 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)"
wrote:

[Doug, anonymouss unverified Physics PhD claimer]

you have shown no
connection with a god. This is just you hoping that no
one will notice that this assuming what you want to prove.


[Hammond]
Your answer to that FALSE STATEMENT is posted below, and
you haven't answered it:

[Hammond]
You're so obviously incompetent its pathetic. Look, the
basic plot, as in any scientific investigation, is to
itemize the characteristics of the phenomenon, and then see
if there is any known simple scientific mechanism which
would explain it.
In this case this means itimizing the CENTRAL CLAIMS of
Religion (take Biblical religion for instance) and seeing if
the discovered mechanism (curvature of subjective spacetime)
COMPELLINGLY AND QUANTITATIVELY EXPLAINS EACH
AND EVERY ITEM.

No, you started off with a conclusion and then tried to
contort the facts to match them. It does not work but you
still persist.

The SPOG scientifically and quantitatively explains the
following 16 (central and comprehensive) items which
characterize Religion:

1. Why there physically exists an "invisible world"
known as "Heaven" which is similar to Earth but
is a paradise.
(Because the Growth Deficit reduces mental
speed and thus reduces the Fourier cutoff
frequency of visual movement) This can be
easily measured directly by theMotion Picture
Fusion Frequency, which increases directly with
gross brain growth)

This is meaningless work salad. Wrong and silly.

2. Why God is an "invisible man" who lives there
and is all powerful and rules the actual (visible)
world from there.
("God" is the perfect fully grown man, hence the
part of us that is latent, or ungrown, is called
the "invisible God", also the "Unconscious mind")

Unsupported hopeful assertion backed by nothing.

3. Why this God can effect miracles which transcend
the (known) laws of Physics.
(Because, a change in Repression causes a
dramatic change in Curvature of subjective
spacetime suddenly making more of reality
visible).

You define him as someone who can do anything and then
draw the conclusion that he can do anything.

4. Why Jesus said "God is a spirit" Jn 4:24
(This is confirmed by the SPOG which shows that
"God" is the unconscious mind, which is a
"spirit")

There is no support for this statement.

5. Why historically Religion has evolved from
Polytheism to Monotheism.
(The SPOG proves that there are 4 orders of
eigenvectors, which is a "hierarchy of gods".
the entire history of Religion is accounted for
as a successive discovery of the orders from
1st=(demigods), 2nd=(Olympian gods), 3rd=
(4-Gospel Saints), 4th=(God of Monotheism)

Christianity moved to one god but Hinduism and others
have not so this is wrong also.


6. Why Christianity says the world is transforming
itself into Heaven and will actually complete this
at a date known as "Kingdom Come"... or the
"end of the world".
(Because the Secular Trend curve in Human
Growth is a Sigmoidal Logistics curve (S-curve)
and the final plateau is 100% growth of
the individual, or "Kingdom Come")

This is even more bizarre than the rest.


7. Why there is such a thing as "Eternal Life".
(Because full growth means flat subjective
spacetime.. no time dilation.. aka eternal time)

There is no content to comment on.

8. Why it is believed that Jesus was the physical
"incarnation of God"
(Because, nominally Jesus was a "fully grown
specimen". Of course we know this wasn't
actually possible, but in fact he must have
been an impressive specimen to conduct
such a startling public ministry.)

This is the claim because otherwise he would not have
seemed important.

9. Why the Cross for some reason is the central
symbol of (Western) Religion.
(Because the human body is an "axial quadrature"
and the brain actually "cubic" causing a cross
structure (Cartesian structure) of Personality)

So the Romans chose a christian symbol to crucify people
on? It was chosen for convenience.


10. Why for some reason our main canonical text is
written in 4 identical versions known as the
"4-Gospel Canon".
(Because the Structural Model is CUBIC,
represented as a square; 4 Gospel Canon
represents the 4 canonical personalities
of Man... cf. the Bicameral/2 Party system)

The four versions of the new testament are not identical.
They are in fact completely contradictory in some areas.

11. How God "created the world" only a matter of
"thousands" of years ago (Genesis) not "billions"
of years ago (Big Bang) as Science believes.
(Because subjective spacetime only came into
being when Man came into being 200,000 years
ago, causing the Biblical Creation).

This has been shown to be untrue by science. You do not
want to believe it but that does not change the facts.

12. Why God created man "in his own image".
(Because God is the invisible (fully grown)
version of Man).

You got that backwards, man created god in his own image.

13. Why there is a "Trinity of God" and what it is,
functionally or scientifically speaking.
(the Trinity is simply the cybernetic feedback
loop (input, output, feedback) describing the
operation of the Father (invisible man), Son
actual Man, and feedback (UNCS mind) that
transforms the latter into the former).

This silliness is even worse than that above.

14. Why there are (approximately) 13 gods in the
Egypto-Greco-Roman pantheon.
(Because the 2nd orders are caused by the
13 symmetry axes of the cubic str. of the brain).

This is where you claim again that 12=13 to 3 significant
figures.

15. Why there are exactly 4-gospel Saints named
Matthew, mark, Luke, John.
(Because the Cubic str. of Personality can be
represented by a section through the Cube,
yielding the 4 canonical personalities of Man)

The council of Nicea chose the books to unify the various
christian sects. There were several main sects and this
is why Revelation, which has no part in the bible since it is
just a forecast of Rome's destruction is in there.

16. Why there are 30 odd "lesser demigods" in Hinduism.
(Because there are 30 1st-order eigenvectors
caused by myriad lower level brain structures;
not geometrically intercorrelated)


You forgot the other millions. You are also ignoring the
various earth gods and other traditional gods.


THIS OVERWHELMING, COMPREHENSIVE EXPLANATION OF THE
ENTIRE BODY OF CLASSICAL RELIGION, BY A SIMPLE RELATIVISTIC
CURVATURE MECHANISM, IS PRIMA FACIE THE WORLD'S FIRST AND
ONLY BONA FIDE "SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD".

No, it is just babble that no one takes seriously.

Now you can sit there and giggle like a flat footed fat
ass academy boy all you want, but it certainly is NOT
convincing.

And your nonsense is?

either show us some of your scintillating PhD forensic
scientist genius a la ronald Reagan, or go back to work
designing Widgets at Quintessential Trinkets where you
belong.

Remind us again where you work?


snip argumentative no content crap

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George Hammond writes:

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 03:29:58 +0000 (UTC),
(Michael Moroney) wrote:

OK, EXACTLY 13 2nd order eigenvectors (however you redefine 'eigenvector').
Not 14, not 12, but EXACTLY 13. Got it.

Whaddau mean "redefine eigenvector"? An eigenvector is a
principle axis of a matrix ellipsoid, whether it's in
quantum mechanics, Psychometry Factor Analysis or the moment
of Inertia in Mechanics, makes no difference. An
eigenvector is an eigenvector.
The Pagan "gods" are 2nd order psychometry eigenvectors
caused by the cubic anatomical symmetry cleavage of the
brain. They form a CUBE.

Yup. Add 'eigenvector' to the growing list of redefined words.


7.7% "pretty good for ancient science". Let's imagine,
just for a moment, that the ancient Greeks built the Parthenon with some
of the Doric columns 12 meters tall and others 13 meters tall. The 12m
and 13m columns all mixed up. That would be "pretty good for ancient
science", right? Only 7.7% off, right? Wrong - if they ever did that,
the Parthenon would look pathetic. Instead of the ancient Greeks being
revered by western society, they'd be the laughing stock of the ancient
world! I'm laughing just thinking about it!

Cut the **** Moroney, measureing something with a ruler
like the Parthenon is kid stuff.

And counting as far as 13 is even more kid stuff. My kid could count past
13 when she was just 2.

Fact is Eratosthenes estimated the Earth's circumference
around 240 BCE. The Sun was directly overhead in Syene at
the summer solstice but in Alexandria it still cast a
shadow. Using the distance and angles he estimated the
Earth's circumference. Eratosthenes' figure has an error of
around five to ten percent.
So "7.7%" was par for the course in advanced scientific
measurement in ancient Greece.

We're not talking about measuring angles of sunlight, time or distance
(all of which would be necessary to do what Eratosthenes did) or
even just distance (enough to get the columns of the Parthenon to the same
height), we're talking about _counting gods_!

The fact that they could estimate "God" to 7.7% is a
phenomenal scientific achievement by comparison!

Counting to 13 is *not* a phenomenal scientific achievement! It's
something that some two-year-olds can do!

So you'll have to find some other trivia to rag on, I've
beaten your "12 vs. 13" objection to death.

You're the one who makes it a big deal about your claim that there are
"EXACTLY 13 2nd order Eigenvectors". Well guess what. 12 is NOT "exactly
13".

Like I said, the Greeks were 7.7% off, same as their
measuremet of the Earth's circumference.

We're not talking about 'measuring' anything (and even so they could
measure Parthenon columns to much better than 7.7% error), we're talking
about simple counting.

BTW, 12 and 13 are not within 3 significant figures of each other. (do
you even know what that means?) Try 1 sig fig.

I've got 2 degrees in Physics from accredited
universities in Massachusetts, that certifies that I KNOW
what it means.

Maybe, just maybe, you knew the definition once, but it appears you no
longer do.

If a physicist making measurements writes down the following figures as
lab measurements, how many significant figures are in each number, and
why?

12
13
0.000876
1.000876
120
120.
469.230

Let's hear your "definition" of significant figure. I'll add it to
the ever-growing List of Words Redefined by George Hammond.

"Exist"
"Prove"/"Proof"
"Peer-reviewed"
"Eigenvector" (kewl sounding word that makes my 'proof' sound scientific)
"Twelve" (a number considered unlucky by many)
"Thirteen" (number of eggs in an egg carton)
"Thirty" (number of dollars you need to be considered a multimillionaire)

Modern Science has proved that there are 13-2nd order

Another one. "Modern Science" = "Hammond's imagination"

Of course, perhaps words like "are" "that" "has" etc. should be on the
list and their redefinitions completely change the meaning of what you
write to something completely different.

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:06:43 +0000 (UTC),
(Michael Moroney) wrote:

George Hammond writes:

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 03:29:58 +0000 (UTC),
(Michael Moroney) wrote:


[Michael Moroney]
OK, EXACTLY 13 2nd order eigenvectors (however you redefine 'eigenvector').
Not 14, not 12, but EXACTLY 13. Got it.



[Hammond]
Whaddau mean "redefine eigenvector"? An eigenvector is a
principle axis of a matrix ellipsoid, whether it's in
quantum mechanics, Psychometry Factor Analysis or the moment
of Inertia in Mechanics, makes no difference. An
eigenvector is an eigenvector.
The Pagan "gods" are 2nd order psychometry eigenvectors
caused by the cubic anatomical symmetry cleavage of the
brain. They form a CUBE.


[Michael Moroney]
Yup. Add 'eigenvector' to the growing list of redefined words.


[Hammond]
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
My definition of an eigenvector is SCIENTIFICALLY CORRECT,
and the "Pagan gods" are 2nd order EIGENVECTORS as so
defined in Personality Psychometry and experimentally
measureable to 3 SIGNIFICANT FIGURES and have been so
measured and peer published for 30 years.



[Michael Moroney]
If a physicist making measurements writes down the following figures as
lab measurements, how many significant figures are in each number, and
why?

12
[GH] 2 significant figures
13
[GH] 2 significant figures
0.000876
[GH] 3 significant figures
1.000876
[GH] 7 significant figures
120
[GH] 2 significant figures
120.
[GH] 2 significant figures
469.230
[GH] 5 significant figures

[GH] Why? Because I've got 2 significant college degrees
in Physics from accredited Universities in Massachusetts.


[Hammond]
Now get the f--- outta here atheistic moron; get off this
thread and stay off it, this is not a juvenile discussion
for mentally retarded loudmouths lijke you.
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George Hammond writes:

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:06:43 +0000 (UTC),
(Michael Moroney) wrote:

George Hammond writes:

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 03:29:58 +0000 (UTC),
(Michael Moroney) wrote:
OK, EXACTLY 13 2nd order eigenvectors (however you redefine 'eigenvector').
Not 14, not 12, but EXACTLY 13. Got it.

Whaddau mean "redefine eigenvector"? An eigenvector is a
principle axis of a matrix ellipsoid, whether it's in
quantum mechanics, Psychometry Factor Analysis or the moment
of Inertia in Mechanics, makes no difference. An
eigenvector is an eigenvector.
The Pagan "gods" are 2nd order psychometry eigenvectors
caused by the cubic anatomical symmetry cleavage of the
brain. They form a CUBE.

Yup. Add 'eigenvector' to the growing list of redefined words.

My definition of an eigenvector is SCIENTIFICALLY CORRECT,

And we add to the redefined word list:

"SCIENTIFICALLY CORRECT" : George Hammond hallucinated it so it must be
true.

and the "Pagan gods" are 2nd order EIGENVECTORS as so

"EIGENVECTOR" : Only God and George Hammond know about that, and I'm not
so sure about God.

defined in Personality Psychometry

"Personality Psychometry" : Possibly what George suffers from

and experimentally
measureable to 3 SIGNIFICANT FIGURES

3 SIGNIFICANT FIGURES : One or maybe two significant figures.

and have been so
measured and peer published

Peer published : Posted on a vanity press website.

for 30 years.

I guess this yet another definition for "thirty".

If a physicist making measurements writes down the following figures as
lab measurements, how many significant figures are in each number, and
why?

12
[GH] 2 significant figures
13
[GH] 2 significant figures
0.000876
[GH] 3 significant figures
1.000876
[GH] 7 significant figures
120
[GH] 2 significant figures
120.
[GH] 2 significant figures
469.230
[GH] 5 significant figures

[GH] Why? Because I've got 2 significant college degrees
in Physics from accredited Universities in Massachusetts.

Congratulations. Only two wrong. 71%, a D. I guess if you did better in
your other courses you won't flunk out.

Now please explain how 12=13 to 3 sig figs. (this ought to be good!)

Now get the f--- outta here atheistic moron; get off this
thread and stay off it, this is not a juvenile discussion
for mentally retarded loudmouths lijke you.

Silence, imbecile. Show more respect to your superiors or else the
asylum will revoke your computer privileges.

"George Hammond" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:01:19 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)"
wrote:


[Doug, anonymouss unverified Physics PhD claimer]

you have shown no
connection with a god. This is just you hoping that no
one will notice that this assuming what you want to prove.


[Hammond]
Your answer to that FALSE STATEMENT is posted below, and
you haven't answered it:


[Hammond]
You're so obviously incompetent its pathetic. Look, the
basic plot, as in any scientific investigation, is to
itemize the characteristics of the phenomenon, and then see
if there is any known simple scientific mechanism which
would explain it.

You forgot onoe important step ... (as is usual for ignorant assholes like
you) - what is inivestigated must have a basis in REALITY!
Religious beliefs do NOT!

Only those things that exist in reality have supportive FACTS and EVIDENCE.
Your S.P.O.Crap has produced none of either.

You cannot start out with (your) crap ........ add your own psychotically
delusional, UN-scientific bellows ... and then come up with ANYTHING that
has any relationship to science, reality or sanity!

You're nothing more than a psychotic asshole!