GOD = RELATIVISTIC ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE

On Apr 25, 9:59*am, George Hammond wrote:

1. *If Man does not exist, then nothing exists.

My dog seems to have a different opinion.

I wonder if you will propose to test this hypothesis?

hmmmm...

2. *When Man came into existence 200k yrs ago Time and the
* * * Universe came into existence simultaneously
* * * including it's 13 billion year evolutionary history.

Man has not come into existence yet. What we see is a simulation of
what will happen if man comes into existence. The simulation provides
everything so that we think man already came into existence.

And they lived happily ever after they came into existence...

Mike

"George Hammond" wrote in message
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:40:47 +0100, "Andy F."
wrote:


"George Hammond" wrote in message
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:44:02 +0100, "Andy F."
wrote:


"George Hammond" wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:46:25 +0100, "Andy F."
wrote:


"George Hammond" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:09:01 +0100, "Andy F."
wrote:


[Andy F.]
There's a human opinion based on sensory perception that the
universe
has
been around for billions of years.

[Hammond]
There is overwhelming evidence based on scientific
deduction that *IF* a person existed a billion years ago,
then he would have indeed observed the Universe to exist. I
throughly agree with that and anybody who doesn't is
certifiably either crazy or incompetent.

[Andy F.]
This means the universe existed before
humans did.


[Hammond]
WRONG, DEAD WRONG ANDY.

1) The "existence", of anything, depends entirely on the
sensory perception of Man. There IS NO definition
of the word "existence" that is independent of the
action of a HUMAN observer.
Proof: If all men died tomorrow at 9am, there
would no longer be any way to ascertain at 9:01am
if ANYTHING whatsoever "existed". The word
"existence" has no meaning whatsoever
without the existence of human beings.

2) But what your statement above says, is that
circumstantial evidence indicates (indeed
conclusively) that *IF* a human observer existed
a billion years ago, then he "would have" observed
that the Universe "existed". And I thoroughly
agree with that statement.

An event has to happen BEFORE it can be observed.The light from an
object
has to travel to your eyes before you can see it.
If the object is close by, this takes a few billionths of a
second.When
you
look at the sun, you're seeing what was there 8 minutes ago.And if you
look
through a powerful telescope, you can observe events which hapened
millions
of years ago.

[Hammond]
Idiocy, the Universe didn't "exist" until the human race
arrived to "make" it exist by seeing it. Makes no
difference that the light took 13 billion years to get here,
it didn't "exist" until the human race arrived to see it.


3) However, in point of fact, no such human observer
did exist a billion years ago, therefore, by paragraph
1 above, the Universe actually did *NOT* "exist"
a billion years ago.... even though it "would have"
if anybody was around to see it.

[Andy F.]
So it's not possible for humans to have created the universe.


[Hammond]
Wrong again.
The above proof demonstrates conclusively that Man
"caused" the Universe to come into "existence" since ONLY A
HUMAN can confirm that anything "exists".
In short, "existence" is a PROPERTY of the human mind. No
people, no existence, of anything!

But a human can't confirm that something exists until after it
exists.Which
would make it logically impossible for anything to come into
existence.

[Hammond]
Idiot..... nothing existed until Humans arrived to "make" it
exist by seeing it. You're an imbecile who will never rise
above moronic world games... I suggest you try crossword
puzzles. Moron.


OK. As soon as you've explained how you can 'see' something that doesn't
exist, I'll go and do the crossword.,

[Hammond]
Simple: You come into existence, and when you come into
existence anything you see "exists".

That doesn't explain anything

George doesn't ever explain anything - he just bellows more and more
ignorance ......



[Hammond]
Horse****, it answers your question directly.

see ................





It just looks like you don't understand the question.
If the universe doesn't already exist, there's nothing to see.

[
[Hammond]
No... YOU don't understand the question, or the answer.
It's SIMPLE:

1. If Man does not exist, then nothing exists.
2. When Man came into existence 200k yrs ago Time and the
Universe came into existence simultaneously
including it's 13 billion year evolutionary history.

Why?
What "time" What universe? Why this paticular universe?
Why this particular planet? Why this particular solar system?
Where did this "Man" come from?
Where did this "universe" come from?





If you're too stupid to understand that, that's YOUR
problem, not mine!

There is nothing stupid about not being able to understand psychotic
insanity.

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:51:53 GMT, "John Smith"
wrote:


There is nothing stupid about not being able to understand psychotic
insanity.

[Hammond]
You don't think so? How else could you discover the
world's first scientific proof of God?
=====================================
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http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
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GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
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"George Hammond" wrote in message
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:51:53 GMT, "John Smith"
wrote:


There is nothing stupid about not being able to understand psychotic
insanity.

[Hammond]
You don't think so? How else could you discover the
world's first scientific proof of God?

You admit it?

John Smith wrote:
"George Hammond" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:40:47 +0100, "Andy F."
wrote:

"George Hammond" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:44:02 +0100, "Andy F."
wrote:

"George Hammond" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:46:25 +0100, "Andy F."
wrote:

"George Hammond" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:09:01 +0100, "Andy F."
wrote:

[Andy F.]
There's a human opinion based on sensory perception that the
universe
has
been around for billions of years.

[Hammond]
There is overwhelming evidence based on scientific
deduction that *IF* a person existed a billion years ago,
then he would have indeed observed the Universe to exist. I
throughly agree with that and anybody who doesn't is
certifiably either crazy or incompetent.
[Andy F.]
This means the universe existed before
humans did.


[Hammond]
WRONG, DEAD WRONG ANDY.

1) The "existence", of anything, depends entirely on the
sensory perception of Man. There IS NO definition
of the word "existence" that is independent of the
action of a HUMAN observer.
Proof: If all men died tomorrow at 9am, there
would no longer be any way to ascertain at 9:01am
if ANYTHING whatsoever "existed". The word
"existence" has no meaning whatsoever
without the existence of human beings.

2) But what your statement above says, is that
circumstantial evidence indicates (indeed
conclusively) that *IF* a human observer existed
a billion years ago, then he "would have" observed
that the Universe "existed". And I thoroughly
agree with that statement.
An event has to happen BEFORE it can be observed.The light from an
object
has to travel to your eyes before you can see it.
If the object is close by, this takes a few billionths of a
second.When
you
look at the sun, you're seeing what was there 8 minutes ago.And if you
look
through a powerful telescope, you can observe events which hapened
millions
of years ago.
[Hammond]
Idiocy, the Universe didn't "exist" until the human race
arrived to "make" it exist by seeing it. Makes no
difference that the light took 13 billion years to get here,
it didn't "exist" until the human race arrived to see it.

3) However, in point of fact, no such human observer
did exist a billion years ago, therefore, by paragraph
1 above, the Universe actually did *NOT* "exist"
a billion years ago.... even though it "would have"
if anybody was around to see it.
[Andy F.]
So it's not possible for humans to have created the universe.


[Hammond]
Wrong again.
The above proof demonstrates conclusively that Man
"caused" the Universe to come into "existence" since ONLY A
HUMAN can confirm that anything "exists".
In short, "existence" is a PROPERTY of the human mind. No
people, no existence, of anything!
But a human can't confirm that something exists until after it
exists.Which
would make it logically impossible for anything to come into
existence.

[Hammond]
Idiot..... nothing existed until Humans arrived to "make" it
exist by seeing it. You're an imbecile who will never rise
above moronic world games... I suggest you try crossword
puzzles. Moron.

OK. As soon as you've explained how you can 'see' something that doesn't
exist, I'll go and do the crossword.,

[Hammond]
Simple: You come into existence, and when you come into
existence anything you see "exists".
That doesn't explain anything

George doesn't ever explain anything - he just bellows more and more
ignorance ......


[Hammond]
Horse****, it answers your question directly.

see ................




It just looks like you don't understand the question.
If the universe doesn't already exist, there's nothing to see.

[
[Hammond]
No... YOU don't understand the question, or the answer.
It's SIMPLE:

1. If Man does not exist, then nothing exists.
This is an unsupported assumption which is actually what you
are trying to prove. Thus your "proof" is DOA.

2. When Man came into existence 200k yrs ago Time and the
Universe came into existence simultaneously
including it's 13 billion year evolutionary history.

Man has been around much longer than that. You can go to Nice
and see a hut which is 300,000 years old and go to Menton and
see human artifacts from nearly a million years ago.
the rest of your statement is laughable.
Why?
What "time" What universe? Why this paticular universe?
Why this particular planet? Why this particular solar system?
Where did this "Man" come from?
Where did this "universe" come from?




If you're too stupid to understand that, that's YOUR
problem, not mine!
You keep hoping people are stupid enough to swallow gigantic
silly delusions but that has not happened so far.


There is nothing stupid about not being able to understand psychotic
insanity.

On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:33:49 -0700, doug doug@none wrote:


[Hammond]
1. If Man does not exist, then nothing exists.


[Doug, Physics PhD claimant]
This is an unsupported assumption which is actually what you
are trying to prove. Thus your "proof" is DOA.

[Hammond]
YOU'RE STUPID!
The SPOG is a 3 significant figure proven discovery that
Psychometric Factor Analysis is CAUSALLY IDENTICAL to
Linearized Gravity in Relativity.
This is SCIENTIFIC PROOF that Man's "subjective reality"
(subjective spacetime) differs by a MAJOR REATIVISTIC
CURVATURE from "objective reality" (objective spacetime).
This PROVES that the very long standing, indeed ancient, and
historically unrefuted "unsupported assumption" you refer to
above, is manifestly now a PROVEN FACT. QED, God
isscientifically explained and proven.


[Hammond]
2. When Man came into existence 200k yrs ago Time and the
Universe came into existence simultaneously
including it's 13 billion year evolutionary history.



[Doug, phoney PhD Physics claimant]
Man has been around much longer than that. You can go to Nice
and see a hut which is 300,000 years old and go to Menton and
see human artifacts from nearly a million years ago.
the rest of your statement is laughable.

[Hammond]
Boy, you really are a stupid, shallow, aggravated
imbecile! PhD in Physics, you gotta be kidding!
Wikipedia at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human
says:
"DNA evidence indicates that modern humans originated in
Africa about 200,000 years ago."

200.000 is the commonly accepted age of Homo Sapiens
sapiens, your claims about Nice and Menton notwithstanding.
Besides, you're arguing GRADE SCHOOL IRRELEVANT TRIVIA. A
real PhD in Physics wouldn't be arguing 200 vs 300 thousand
years or 12 vs. 13 gods when CLEARLY anyone with half a
brain in his head can see that in the face of the discovery
that has been made, such arguments are TRIVIAL AND
IRRELEVANT. The conclusion is that you're JUST ANOTHER
AGGRAVATED PHONEY.
As for arguing that there are HSs artifacts from a
million years ago, you're just stupid... there is no such
thing.... asshole!


[Hammond]
You claim you're a physics PhD but refuse to post your CV
and post anonymously so it can't be verified.
If you're a Physics PhD then prove it by answering this
Physics test question for us:

What is the relationship between the Dirac
Gamma matrices of QED and the Christoffel Symbols
of General relativity?

A 25 word answer will be sufficient.
If you can't answer that question off the top of your
head then you're an imposter and a phony.
ANSWER THE QUESTION.... PUT UP OR SHUT UP
=====================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
=====================================

"George Hammond" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:33:49 -0700, doug doug@none wrote:


[Hammond]
1. If Man does not exist, then nothing exists.


[Doug, Physics PhD claimant]
This is an unsupported assumption which is actually what you
are trying to prove. Thus your "proof" is DOA.

[Hammond]
YOU'RE STUPID!

Evidence shows that he's a thousand tyimes smarter than you
are...............



The SPOG is a 3 significant figure proven discovery that
Psychometric Factor Analysis is CAUSALLY IDENTICAL to
Linearized Gravity in Relativity.

It is not a "proven discpvery" when only one psychotically insane person
keeps bellowing it ....... without either support from REAL scientists - or
valid evdence.


This is SCIENTIFIC PROOF that Man's "subjective reality"
(subjective spacetime) differs by a MAJOR REATIVISTIC
CURVATURE from "objective reality" (objective spacetime).
This PROVES that the very long standing, indeed ancient, and
historically unrefuted "unsupported assumption" you refer to
above, is manifestly now a PROVEN FACT. QED, God
isscientifically explained and proven.

Certainly not by you and your deranged, alleged, "science" that follows none
of the rules OF science!




[Hammond]
2. When Man came into existence 200k yrs ago Time and the
Universe came into existence simultaneously
including it's 13 billion year evolutionary history.



[Doug, phoney PhD Physics claimant]
Man has been around much longer than that. You can go to Nice
and see a hut which is 300,000 years old and go to Menton and
see human artifacts from nearly a million years ago.
the rest of your statement is laughable.

[Hammond]
Boy, you really are a stupid, shallow, aggravated
imbecile! PhD in Physics, you gotta be kidding!
Wikipedia at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human
says:
"DNA evidence indicates that modern humans originated in
Africa about 200,000 years ago."

200.000 is the commonly accepted age of Homo Sapiens
sapiens, your claims about Nice and Menton notwithstanding.
Besides, you're arguing GRADE SCHOOL IRRELEVANT TRIVIA. A
real PhD in Physics wouldn't be arguing 200 vs 300 thousand
years or 12 vs. 13 gods when CLEARLY anyone with half a
brain in his head can see that in the face of the discovery
that has been made, such arguments are TRIVIAL AND
IRRELEVANT. The conclusion is that you're JUST ANOTHER
AGGRAVATED PHONEY.
As for arguing that there are HSs artifacts from a
million years ago, you're just stupid... there is no such
thing.... asshole!


[Hammond]
You claim you're a physics PhD but refuse to post your CV
and post anonymously so it can't be verified.
If you're a Physics PhD then prove it by answering this
Physics test question for us:

What is the relationship between the Dirac
Gamma matrices of QED and the Christoffel Symbols
of General relativity?

A 25 word answer will be sufficient.
If you can't answer that question off the top of your
head then you're an imposter and a phony.
ANSWER THE QUESTION.... PUT UP OR SHUT UP

Why?
You totally ignore ALL questions and rebuttals that validly trash your S. P.
O. Crap!

Why should anyone answer your silly criteria questions when you can't even
face up to HONEST and reality based SCIENCE?

You're nothing more than a pile of ****, George ..... and you're even to
dumb to know THAT!

"George Hammond" wrote in message
...

CLEARLY anyone with half a brain in his head..

And even more clearly, anyone with more than half a brain in his head
immediately recognises Hammond's irrational spewing as emanating from a
severely deranged mind. Hammond must be a rare example of a literal
half-wit.

Marc

On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:52:50 GMT, "John Smith"
wrote:


"George Hammond" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:33:49 -0700, doug doug@none wrote:


[Hammond]
1. If Man does not exist, then nothing exists.


[Doug, phony Physics PhD claimant]
This is an unsupported assumption which is actually what you
are trying to prove. Thus your "proof" is DOA.

[Hammond]
YOU'RE STUPID!

[John Smith, atheist]
Evidence shows that he's a thousand tyimes smarter than you
are...............


[Hammond]
The SPOG is a 3 significant figure proven discovery that
Psychometric Factor Analysis is CAUSALLY IDENTICAL to
Linearized Gravity in Relativity.


[John Smith, atheist]
It is not a "proven discpvery" when only one psychotically insane person
keeps bellowing it ....... without either support from REAL scientists - or
valid evdence.


[Hammond]
This is SCIENTIFIC PROOF that Man's "subjective reality"
(subjective spacetime) differs by a MAJOR REATIVISTIC
CURVATURE from "objective reality" (objective spacetime).
This PROVES that the very long standing, indeed ancient, and
historically unrefuted "unsupported assumption" you refer to
above, is manifestly now a PROVEN FACT. QED, God
isscientifically explained and proven.

[John Smith, atheist]
Certainly not by you and your deranged, alleged, "science" that follows none
of the rules OF science!




[Hammond]
2. When Man came into existence 200k yrs ago Time and the
Universe came into existence simultaneously
including it's 13 billion year evolutionary history.


[Doug, phony PhD Physics claimant]
Man has been around much longer than that. You can go to Nice
and see a hut which is 300,000 years old and go to Menton and
see human artifacts from nearly a million years ago.
the rest of your statement is laughable.

[Hammond]
Boy, you really are a stupid, shallow, aggravated
imbecile! PhD in Physics, you gotta be kidding!
Wikipedia at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human
says:
"DNA evidence indicates that modern humans originated in
Africa about 200,000 years ago."
200.000 is the commonly accepted age of Homo Sapiens
sapiens, your claims about Nice and Menton notwithstanding.
Besides, you're arguing GRADE SCHOOL IRRELEVANT TRIVIA. A
real PhD in Physics wouldn't be arguing 200 vs 300 thousand
years or 12 vs. 13 gods when CLEARLY anyone with half a
brain in his head can see that in the face of the discovery
that has been made, such arguments are TRIVIAL AND
IRRELEVANT. The conclusion is that you're JUST ANOTHER
AGGRAVATED PHONEY.
As for arguing that there are HSs artifacts from a
million years ago, you're just stupid... there is no such
thing.... asshole!


[Hammond]
You claim you're a physics PhD but refuse to post your CV
and post anonymously so it can't be verified.
If you're a Physics PhD then prove it by answering this
Physics test question for us:

What is the relationship between the Dirac
Gamma matrices of QED and the Christoffel Symbols
of General relativity?

A 25 word answer will be sufficient.
If you can't answer that question off the top of your
head then you're an imposter and a phony.
ANSWER THE QUESTION.... PUT UP OR SHUT UP

[John Smith, atheist]
Why?
You totally ignore ALL questions and rebuttals that validly trash your S. P.
O. Crap!
Why should anyone answer your silly criteria questions when you can't even
face up to HONEST and reality based SCIENCE?




[John Smith, atheist]
You're nothing more than a pile of ****, George ..... and you're even to
dumb to know THAT!


[Hammond]
You're a pile of **** and whipped
cream with a cherry on top!
=====================================
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http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
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GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
=====================================

On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:07:44 +0100, "marc"
wrote:

"George Hammond" wrote in message
.. .

CLEARLY anyone with half a brain in his head..

And even more clearly, anyone with more than half a brain in his head
immediately recognises Hammond's irrational spewing as emanating from a
severely deranged mind. Hammond must be a rare example of a literal
half-wit.

Marc


Gee whiz, is Marc really Cram spelled backwards?
=====================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
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GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
=====================================