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Old November 1st 03 posted to sci.physics.particle
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Default How Does Light "Know How Fast to Travel?

How Does Light "Know" How Fast to Travel?

One of the basic beliefs of modern physics is that the velocity of light
is the same wherever and whenever it is measured. It is, in the language of
physics, invariant. To illustrate this understanding, let us consider an
example in which a rocket ship passes Mars on its way towards Earth. On the
rocket ship and on Mars are two radio transmitters arranged so that, at the
instant the ship passes Mars and transmitters are at the same distance from
Earth, both transmitters send a signal towards Earth. Along the route, test
stations observe the passage of the signals and report that the signals pass
each station simultaneously, exactly in accordance with the requirements of
Special Relativity. (Radio signals differ from light signals only in their
frequency. Relativistically, their behavior is identical..)

This observation presents no problem if the radio signals is are waves
propagating through a medium (e.g.- the Aether) as sound does though air. The
velocity of a wave propagating through a medium is the velocity of propagation
of that wave though the medium. The velocity of propagation of the sound of a
gunshot is independent of the velocity of the gun while the velocity of the
bullet is not. The observation presents a difficulty, however, if we regard the
photons which makeup the radio wave as particles which are emitted from the
source and travel ballistically to the target. Such would seem to be the
concept of the propagation of light when one considers the apparent banishment
of the Aether following the acceptance of Special Relativity. If there is no
medium, then the observably same velocity of the two radio waves could only
occur if the transmitter on the rocket ship had measured its velocity with
respect to the transmitter on Mars and adjusted the velocity of its transmitted
signal so as to cause the two signals to travel together.

The side by side propagation of the radio signals presents no problem if
one accepts that they are a vibrational disturbance traveling through a medium
(e.g. - the Aether), but if there is no medium it would seem to require that
some sort of "magic" be involved. The presence of magic in physical processes
is more difficult for the writer to accept than is the existence of the
classical Aether. This conclusion is particularly true since the Aether has
been shown to be conventionally unobservable but has never been shown to be
non-existent. The latter conclusion results from the fact that physicists have
jumped from an unproven assertion to a foregone conclusion. Dr. Einstein did
warn that the non-existence of the Aether had not been proven, what had been
proven was that it was not necessary for computations of relativistic effects.

The source material for this posting may be found in "Gravity" (1987),
"The Einstein Hoax" (1997), and "Corrections to Residual Errors in Special
Relativity (1999) located at http://www.members.aol.com/einsteinhoax/site.htm .
EVERYTHING WHICH WE ACCEPT AS TRUE MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE WE
HAVE ACCEPTED AS TRUE, IT MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL OBSERVATIONS, AND IT MUST
BE MATHEMATICALLY VIABLE. PRESENT TEACHINGS DO NOT ALWAYS MEET THIS
REQUIREMENT. THE WORLD IS ENTITLED TO A HIGHER STANDARD OF WORKMANSHIP FROM
THOSE IT HAS GRANTED WORLD CLASS STATUS.

Please make any response via E-mail as Newsgroups are not monitored on a
regular basis. Objective responses will be treated with the same courtesy as
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do not raise objections that are not related to material that you have read at
the Website. This posting is merely a summary.

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mindlessly accepted the prevailing wisdom without questioning it. If anyone
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Old November 1st 03 posted to sci.physics.particle
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Tamrof01 wrote:
How Does Light "Know" How Fast to Travel?


It reads the speed limit posted.

holog

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Old November 2nd 03 posted to sci.physics.particle
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Default How Does Light "Know How Fast to Travel?

Chuckle...

Could it be, I wonder, that the actual departure from the material that
emits the photon is the limiting factor?

:-)

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Old November 2nd 03 posted to sci.physics.particle
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Default How Does Light "Know How Fast to Travel?

oooorrr maybe the electron jumping valence shells, tearing the space of
the time space
fabric itself, creating a wake that only the eyes can see or somebody
with corrected vision.

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Chuckle...

Could it be, I wonder, that the actual departure from the material that
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Old November 2nd 03 posted to sci.physics.particle
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Default How Does Light "Know How Fast to Travel?

And can we in fact detect a speed greater than that of light anyway?

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Old November 4th 03 posted to sci.physics.particle
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Default How Does Light "Know How Fast to Travel?

Because light travels at the: "omnidirectional speed of time thouugh space", i.e.
the speed of light is the speed of time.

www.realityphysics.com


This hasn't been discovered by academia yet so don't tell anyone since they won't
believe you anyway. Give it another 5 to 10 years or so and they may figure it out.

all the best,

Jeff Lee CENTER FOR REALITY PHYSICS


Tamrof01 wrote:

How Does Light "Know" How Fast to Travel?

One of the basic beliefs of modern physics is that the velocity of light
is the same wherever and whenever it is measured. It is, in the language of
physics, invariant. To illustrate this understanding, let us consider an
example in which a rocket ship passes Mars on its way towards Earth. On the
rocket ship and on Mars are two radio transmitters arranged so that, at the
instant the ship passes Mars and transmitters are at the same distance from
Earth, both transmitters send a signal towards Earth. Along the route, test
stations observe the passage of the signals and report that the signals pass
each station simultaneously, exactly in accordance with the requirements of
Special Relativity. (Radio signals differ from light signals only in their
frequency. Relativistically, their behavior is identical..)

This observation presents no problem if the radio signals is are waves
propagating through a medium (e.g.- the Aether) as sound does though air. The
velocity of a wave propagating through a medium is the velocity of propagation
of that wave though the medium. The velocity of propagation of the sound of a
gunshot is independent of the velocity of the gun while the velocity of the
bullet is not. The observation presents a difficulty, however, if we regard the
photons which makeup the radio wave as particles which are emitted from the
source and travel ballistically to the target. Such would seem to be the
concept of the propagation of light when one considers the apparent banishment
of the Aether following the acceptance of Special Relativity. If there is no
medium, then the observably same velocity of the two radio waves could only
occur if the transmitter on the rocket ship had measured its velocity with
respect to the transmitter on Mars and adjusted the velocity of its transmitted
signal so as to cause the two signals to travel together.

The side by side propagation of the radio signals presents no problem if
one accepts that they are a vibrational disturbance traveling through a medium
(e.g. - the Aether), but if there is no medium it would seem to require that
some sort of "magic" be involved. The presence of magic in physical processes
is more difficult for the writer to accept than is the existence of the
classical Aether. This conclusion is particularly true since the Aether has
been shown to be conventionally unobservable but has never been shown to be
non-existent. The latter conclusion results from the fact that physicists have
jumped from an unproven assertion to a foregone conclusion. Dr. Einstein did
warn that the non-existence of the Aether had not been proven, what had been
proven was that it was not necessary for computations of relativistic effects.

The source material for this posting may be found in "Gravity" (1987),
"The Einstein Hoax" (1997), and "Corrections to Residual Errors in Special
Relativity (1999) located at http://www.members.aol.com/einsteinhoax/site.htm .
EVERYTHING WHICH WE ACCEPT AS TRUE MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE WE
HAVE ACCEPTED AS TRUE, IT MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL OBSERVATIONS, AND IT MUST
BE MATHEMATICALLY VIABLE. PRESENT TEACHINGS DO NOT ALWAYS MEET THIS
REQUIREMENT. THE WORLD IS ENTITLED TO A HIGHER STANDARD OF WORKMANSHIP FROM
THOSE IT HAS GRANTED WORLD CLASS STATUS.

Please make any response via E-mail as Newsgroups are not monitored on a
regular basis. Objective responses will be treated with the same courtesy as
they are presented. To prevent the wastage of time on both of our parts, please
do not raise objections that are not related to material that you have read at
the Website. This posting is merely a summary.

For a response send E-Mail to

The material at the Website has been posted continuously for over 5 years.
In that time THERE HAVE BEEN NO OBJECTIVE REBUTTALS OF ANY OF THE MATERIAL
PRESENTED. There have only been hand waving arguments by individuals who have
mindlessly accepted the prevailing wisdom without questioning it. If anyone
provides a significant rebuttal that cannot be objectively answered, the
material at the Website will be withdrawn.


 




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