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On Jun 30, 2:34*pm, wrote:
Do electrons in seperate shells effect one another if the shells are in close proximity? What creates atomic shells? Are protons always surrounded by empty shells? Mitch Raemsch Nucleon resonsonances suggest nuclear subshells. |
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On Jun 30, 2:36 pm, wrote:
On Jun 30, 2:34 pm, wrote: Do electrons in seperate shells effect one another if the shells are in close proximity? What creates atomic shells? Are protons always surrounded by empty shells? Mitch Raemsch Nucleon resonsonances suggest nuclear subshells. You need to shut the hell up. |
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On Jun 30, 6:36*pm, wrote:
On Jun 30, 2:34*pm, wrote: Do electrons in seperate shells effect one another if the shells are in close proximity? Only if the primers are abused. What creates atomic shells? Atomic Ammunition LLC Are protons always surrounded by empty shells? Only if they have been firing bursts. Mitch Raemsch Nucleon resonsonances suggest nuclear subshells. "resonsonances"??? Tom Davidson Richmond, VA |
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On Jul 1, 1:36 am, wrote:
On Jun 30, 2:34 pm, wrote: Do electrons in seperate shells effect one another if the shells are in close proximity? ------------------------ the common existing picture about electron shells is wrong untill now there is only a crippled mathematical model!! 2 the basic assumption that all Protons in the nuc are positively charged is wrong in heavy Atoms not all the Protons are charged so consiquently the number of electrons in a heavy Atom is much less than as now believed and' fiddles in ' so the problem in reality is much less complicated (much less possible interference between all alleged electrons) 3 the electron 'orbitals' do not orbit around the nuc but stem outwards right from the nuc outwards (sort of 'fountains' directed outwards ifyou like -sort of 'horns' outwards not very different than the chemical 'bars' of chemical Arms valence that we see in chemical compound descriptions ) and therefore no interference between them the active 'charge' of that bar orbital is only at its external edge 4 another conclusion out of it is that the electron is not a 'final point particle but sub composed in short -- too many existing wrong basic assumptions that lead to unnecessary confusion and deception ATB Y.Porat ---------------------- What creates atomic shells? Are protons always surrounded by empty shells? Mitch Raemsch Nucleon resonsonances suggest nuclear subshells. |
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On Jun 30, 8:15*pm, "Y.Porat" wrote:
On Jul 1, 1:36 am, wrote: On Jun 30, 2:34 pm, wrote: Do electrons in seperate shells effect one another if the shells are in close proximity? ------------------------ the common existing picture about electron shells is wrong untill now there is only a crippled mathematical model!! 2 the basic assumption that all Protons in the nuc are positively charged is wrong in * *heavy Atoms *not all the Protons are charged so consiquently *the number of electrons *in a heavy Atom is much less than as now believed and' fiddles in ' so the problem in reality is much less complicated (much less possible interference between all alleged electrons) 3 the electron 'orbitals' do not orbit around the nuc but stem outwards *right from the nuc outwards (sort of * 'fountains' directed outwards ifyou * like *-sort of 'horns' outwards not very different than the chemical 'bars' of chemical Arms valence *that we see in chemical compound descriptions ) and therefore *no interference between them the active 'charge' of that bar orbital is only at its external edge 4 another conclusion out of it is that the *electron is not a 'final point particle but sub composed in short *-- *too many existing wrong basic assumptions that lead to unnecessary confusion and deception ATB Y.Porat ---------------------- What creates atomic shells? Are protons always surrounded by empty shells? Mitch Raemsch Nucleon resonsonances suggest nuclear subshells.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The protons and electrons should come together. Mitch Raemsch |
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BURT wrote:
On Jun 30, 8:15 pm, "Y.Porat" wrote: On Jul 1, 1:36 am, wrote: On Jun 30, 2:34 pm, wrote: Do electrons in seperate shells effect one another if the shells are in close proximity? ------------------------ the common existing picture about electron shells is wrong untill now there is only a crippled mathematical model!! 2 the basic assumption that all Protons in the nuc are positively charged is wrong in heavy Atoms not all the Protons are charged so consiquently the number of electrons in a heavy Atom is much less than as now believed and' fiddles in ' so the problem in reality is much less complicated (much less possible interference between all alleged electrons) 3 the electron 'orbitals' do not orbit around the nuc but stem outwards right from the nuc outwards (sort of 'fountains' directed outwards ifyou like -sort of 'horns' outwards not very different than the chemical 'bars' of chemical Arms valence that we see in chemical compound descriptions ) and therefore no interference between them the active 'charge' of that bar orbital is only at its external edge 4 another conclusion out of it is that the electron is not a 'final point particle but sub composed in short -- too many existing wrong basic assumptions that lead to unnecessary confusion and deception ATB Y.Porat ---------------------- What creates atomic shells? Are protons always surrounded by empty shells? Mitch Raemsch Nucleon resonsonances suggest nuclear subshells.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The protons and electrons should come together. Mitch Raemsch They can't come together anymore than the Earth circling the Sun can. The Mad Ape www.tatumba.com |
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On Jun 30, 11:27*pm, Mad Ape wrote:
BURT wrote: On Jun 30, 8:15 pm, "Y.Porat" wrote: On Jul 1, 1:36 am, wrote: On Jun 30, 2:34 pm, wrote: Do electrons in seperate shells effect one another if the shells are in close proximity? ------------------------ the common existing picture about electron shells is wrong untill now there is only a crippled mathematical model!! 2 the basic assumption that all Protons in the nuc are positively charged is wrong in * *heavy Atoms *not all the Protons are charged so consiquently *the number of electrons *in a heavy Atom is much less than as now believed and' fiddles in ' so the problem in reality is much less complicated (much less possible interference between all alleged electrons) 3 the electron 'orbitals' do not orbit around the nuc but stem outwards *right from the nuc outwards (sort of * 'fountains' directed outwards ifyou * like *-sort of 'horns' outwards not very different than the chemical 'bars' of chemical Arms valence *that we see in chemical compound descriptions ) and therefore *no interference between them the active 'charge' of that bar orbital is only at its external edge 4 another conclusion out of it is that the *electron is not a 'final point particle but sub composed in short *-- *too many existing wrong basic assumptions that lead to unnecessary confusion and deception ATB Y.Porat ---------------------- What creates atomic shells? Are protons always surrounded by empty shells? Mitch Raemsch Nucleon resonsonances suggest nuclear subshells.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The protons and electrons should come together. Mitch Raemsch They can't come together anymore than the Earth circling the Sun can. The Mad Apewww.tatumba.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - This is no explanation. What is stopping their attraction? Electric charge opposites attract. Mitch Raemsch |
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On Jul 1, 10:27 am, Mad Ape wrote:
BURT wrote: On Jun 30, 8:15 pm, "Y.Porat" wrote: On Jul 1, 1:36 am, wrote: On Jun 30, 2:34 pm, wrote: Do electrons in seperate shells effect one another if the shells are in close proximity? ------------------------ the common existing picture about electron shells is wrong untill now there is only a crippled mathematical model!! 2 the basic assumption that all Protons in the nuc are positively charged is wrong in heavy Atoms not all the Protons are charged so consiquently the number of electrons in a heavy Atom is much less than as now believed and' fiddles in ' so the problem in reality is much less complicated (much less possible interference between all alleged electrons) 3 the electron 'orbitals' do not orbit around the nuc but stem outwards right from the nuc outwards (sort of 'fountains' directed outwards ifyou like -sort of 'horns' outwards not very different than the chemical 'bars' of chemical Arms valence that we see in chemical compound descriptions ) and therefore no interference between them the active 'charge' of that bar orbital is only at its external edge 4 another conclusion out of it is that the electron is not a 'final point particle but sub composed in short -- too many existing wrong basic assumptions that lead to unnecessary confusion and deception ATB Y.Porat ---------------------- What creates atomic shells? Are protons always surrounded by empty shells? Mitch Raemsch Nucleon resonsonances suggest nuclear subshells.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The protons and electrons should come together. Mitch Raemsch They can't come together anymore than the Earth circling the Sun can. The Mad Apewww.tatumba.com an electron can join a Proton as an 'edge orbital ' in a 'chain of orbitals' !! it is definitely not the solar system that is in your mind !! ATB Y.Porat ---------------------- |
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On Jul 2, 2:54*am, "Y.y.Porat" wrote:
On Jul 1, 10:27 am, Mad Ape wrote: BURT wrote: On Jun 30, 8:15 pm, "Y.Porat" wrote: On Jul 1, 1:36 am, wrote: On Jun 30, 2:34 pm, wrote: Do electrons in seperate shells effect one another if the shells are in close proximity? ------------------------ the common existing picture about electron shells is wrong untill now there is only a crippled mathematical model!! 2 the basic assumption that all Protons in the nuc are positively charged is wrong in * *heavy Atoms *not all the Protons are charged so consiquently *the number of electrons *in a heavy Atom is much less than as now believed and' fiddles in ' so the problem in reality is much less complicated (much less possible interference between all alleged electrons) 3 the electron 'orbitals' do not orbit around the nuc but stem outwards *right from the nuc outwards (sort of * 'fountains' directed outwards ifyou * like *-sort of 'horns' outwards not very different than the chemical 'bars' of chemical Arms valence *that we see in chemical compound descriptions ) and therefore *no interference between them the active 'charge' of that bar orbital is only at its external edge 4 another conclusion out of it is that the *electron is not a 'final point particle but sub composed in short *-- *too many existing wrong basic assumptions that lead to unnecessary confusion and deception ATB Y.Porat ---------------------- What creates atomic shells? Are protons always surrounded by empty shells? Mitch Raemsch Nucleon resonsonances suggest nuclear subshells.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The protons and electrons should come together. Mitch Raemsch They can't come together anymore than the Earth circling the Sun can. The Mad Apewww.tatumba.com an electron can join a Proton as an 'edge orbital ' in a 'chain of orbitals' !! it is definitely not the solar system that is in your mind !! ATB Y.Porat ----------------------- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oribital to orbital interaction of electrons by electric repulsion should be part of the order of the electromagnetic shells. Mitch Reamsch |
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On Jul 5, 4:37*am, BURT wrote:
On Jul 2, 2:54*am, "Y.y.Porat" wrote: On Jul 1, 10:27 am, Mad Ape wrote: BURT wrote: On Jun 30, 8:15 pm, "Y.Porat" wrote: On Jul 1, 1:36 am, wrote: On Jun 30, 2:34 pm, wrote: Do electrons in seperate shells effect one another if the shells are in close proximity? ------------------------ the common existing picture about electron shells is wrong untill now there is only a crippled mathematical model!! 2 the basic assumption that all Protons in the nuc are positively charged is wrong in * *heavy Atoms *not all the Protons are charged so consiquently *the number of electrons *in a heavy Atom is much less than as now believed and' fiddles in ' so the problem in reality is much less complicated (much less possible interference between all alleged electrons) 3 the electron 'orbitals' do not orbit around the nuc but stem outwards *right from the nuc outwards (sort of * 'fountains' directed outwards ifyou * like *-sort of 'horns' outwards not very different than the chemical 'bars' of chemical Arms valence *that we see in chemical compound descriptions ) and therefore *no interference between them the active 'charge' of that bar orbital is only at its external edge 4 another conclusion out of it is that the *electron is not a 'final point particle but sub composed in short *-- *too many existing wrong basic assumptions that lead to unnecessary confusion and deception ATB Y.Porat ---------------------- What creates atomic shells? Are protons always surrounded by empty shells? Mitch Raemsch Nucleon resonsonances suggest nuclear subshells.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The protons and electrons should come together. Mitch Raemsch They can't come together anymore than the Earth circling the Sun can. The Mad Apewww.tatumba.com an electron can join a Proton as an 'edge orbital ' in a 'chain of orbitals' !! it is definitely not the solar system that is in your mind !! ATB Y.Porat ----------------------- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oribital to orbital interaction of electrons by electric repulsion should be part of the order of the electromagnetic shells. Mitch Reamsch ------------------ you will be surprised that 'Nature' did it much cleaver !!! it is in a much more peaceful way!! there is no orbital to orbital interference and no repulsion in its 'ground state ' 2 the number of electrons 'around the nuc' is much less than the common paradigm !! (depends about what we you call 'around') ATB Y.Porat -------------------------- |
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