On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 00:26:31 -0700, plutonium.archimedes wrote:

You do not know enough physics to be in this conversation. And you are
logically inept. You would be suitable to discuss history of geology,
but
physics is out of your league.

I know all there is to know physics and I know the secrets of the True
Enema (including the dual pipe method).

WELLDONE! Yep!

On 15 avr, 04:07, "sir.jean-paul.turcaudbot" sir.jean-
wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 00:26:31 -0700, plutonium.archimedes wrote:
You do not know enough physics to be in this conversation. And you are
logically inept. You would be suitable to discuss history of geology,
but
physics is out of your league.

I know all there is to know physics and I know the secrets of the True
Enema (including the dual pipe method).

WELLDONE! Yep!

Identiy thieving ?

The latest advance in lying & thieving from australia ?
Congratulations for the effort, except that it cannot be but
plagiarism & innuendos.

.... as for your real indentity, the one of a yellow coward, either
Tyrwhitt, Anglesea, Groenstein etc I am not interested to know it

So if the Dynamo Motor Vibrations theory of Continental Drift is true
and the heat Convection Plate
Tectonics is false, then there should be continents that vibrate in
one direction one day and in
reverse direction another day. This is the same as what happens to a
pot or pan placed on top of
the refrigerator and the vibrations eventually move the pots and pans
over the edge. Somedays
the pot moves forward while another day the vibrations move it
backwards.

So taking a search on Google for news of a continent switching
directions of motion searched
for the key words "plate tectonics reverse motion" and had these hits:

2006 Tectonic Plate Motion Reversal Near Acapulco Puzzles ...
Aug 6, 2007 ... A reversal of tectonic plate motion between Acapulco
and Mexico City in the last half of 2006 probably didn't ease seismic
strain in the ...
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0802130847.htm - 48k - Cached
- Similar pages
2006 Plate Motion Reversal Unlikely To Have Eased Seismic Strain ...
Aug 2, 2007 ... A reversal of tectonic plate motion near Acapulco,
Mexico, in 2006 (colored arrows) as measured by GPS satellites did
little to ease seismic ...
www.colorado.edu/news/releases/2007/285.html - 12k - Cached - Similar
pages
2006 Tectonic Plate Motion Reversal Near Acapulco Puzzles ...
Aug 8, 2007 ... Boulder CO (SPX) Aug 08, 2007 - A reversal of tectonic
plate motion between Acapulco and Mexico City in the last half of 2006
probably ...
http://www.terradaily.com/reports/20...uake_Scientist...
- 26k - Cached - Similar pages
2006 tectonic plate motion reversal near Acapulco puzzles ...
Aug 2, 2007 ... PhysOrg news: 2006 tectonic plate motion reversal near
Acapulco puzzles earthquake scientists.
www.physorg.com/news105282544.html - 23k - Cached - Similar pages


You see, in the old Plate Tectonics where heat drives a conveyor belt
cells in the mantle of
Earth and where the crust plates move along on these conveyor belts,
well, you have motion
in one direction or unidirectional motion.

But if the dynamo motor theory is correct where Vibrations are the
source for Continents drifting
plus the component of lightning bolts acting as plate lubricants,
well, you can easily have
reversal motion where a Continent is moving north for one month but
moves south the next
month.



Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
So if the Dynamo Motor Vibrations theory of Continental Drift is true
and the heat Convection Plate
Tectonics is false, then there should be continents that vibrate in
one direction one day and in
reverse direction another day. This is the same as what happens to a
pot or pan placed on top of
the refrigerator and the vibrations eventually move the pots and pans
over the edge. Somedays
the pot moves forward while another day the vibrations move it
backwards.

So taking a search on Google for news of a continent switching
directions of motion searched
for the key words "plate tectonics reverse motion" and had these hits:

2006 Tectonic Plate Motion Reversal Near Acapulco Puzzles ...
Aug 6, 2007 ... A reversal of tectonic plate motion between Acapulco
and Mexico City in the last half of 2006 probably didn't ease seismic
strain in the ...
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0802130847.htm - 48k - Cached
- Similar pages
2006 Plate Motion Reversal Unlikely To Have Eased Seismic Strain ...
Aug 2, 2007 ... A reversal of tectonic plate motion near Acapulco,
Mexico, in 2006 (colored arrows) as measured by GPS satellites did
little to ease seismic ...
www.colorado.edu/news/releases/2007/285.html - 12k - Cached - Similar
pages
2006 Tectonic Plate Motion Reversal Near Acapulco Puzzles ...
Aug 8, 2007 ... Boulder CO (SPX) Aug 08, 2007 - A reversal of tectonic
plate motion between Acapulco and Mexico City in the last half of 2006
probably ...
http://www.terradaily.com/reports/20...uake_Scientist...
- 26k - Cached - Similar pages
2006 tectonic plate motion reversal near Acapulco puzzles ...
Aug 2, 2007 ... PhysOrg news: 2006 tectonic plate motion reversal near
Acapulco puzzles earthquake scientists.
www.physorg.com/news105282544.html - 23k - Cached - Similar pages


You see, in the old Plate Tectonics where heat drives a conveyor belt
cells in the mantle of
Earth and where the crust plates move along on these conveyor belts,
well, you have motion
in one direction or unidirectional motion.

But if the dynamo motor theory is correct where Vibrations are the
source for Continents drifting
plus the component of lightning bolts acting as plate lubricants,
well, you can easily have
reversal motion where a Continent is moving north for one month but
moves south the next
month.


Now Wikipedia in their article on Plate Tectonics they mentioned that
the North
American and Eurasian plates were not subduction plates.

So I am hoping that the above Acapulco Mexico plate is a subduction
plate. Why am
I hoping for that? Because it makes it doubly funny, that a subduction
plate would be
driven below the crust by alleged heat Plate Tectonics and then
somehow miraculously
come flying out of that subduction and move in the opposite direction.

I am hoping because if it is shown that a subduction plate reverses
motion means the plate
was never subduction in the first place. And that when geologists
claim and proclaim a slab of
rock or layers of rock are subducting, well, they are just phony
baloney and that the rocks
are not subduction but that something else is happening.

Maybe there is something like "penetration of rock layers" but never a
subduction of crust
layers into the asthenosphere or the mantle.

In fact, if the Vibration theory is true, a physicist should be able
to work out how deep of a
penetration that a lithosphere rock layer could penetrate into the
asthenosphere if at all.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

wrote:
Having a look at the status of information on several planets such as
Mars, Venus and Jupiter.

So if my theory of Motor vibrations is true then a planet that has a
Motor Dynamo, should have
active plate tectonics. Now Jupiter has an active Motor Dynamo, but
can we say it has
plates to move on its surface? Well it does have metallic hydrogen and
helium. Can the red spot
of Jupiter be a Continental Plate as a metallic hydrogen-helium plate?
Perhaps I am stretching
it.


any more and the idea will become tenuous. jupiter is a GAS GIANT.
it does not have any visible solid mass but very deep clouds of gas and
methane.

Mars and Venus have signs of past plate tectonics. Neither one of
these planets has an
active dynamo motor in its core.
\
the prblem with Venus is the heat. so no sensors will tell us
about motions.

Mars is too cold but Venus is similar to the earth.

But if the Plate Tectonic theory with its subduction zones and
convection cells is true:

(by the way here is a good picture of convection cells)--
http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/dynamic/unanswered.html

If that Convection Cell is true then both Mars and Venus should be
active plate tectonics
because their mantles should be the hot viscuous type of plastic rock
as in convection
cells.

So, here, the planets favor my theory.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

josephus wrote:
wrote:
Having a look at the status of information on several planets such as
Mars, Venus and Jupiter.

So if my theory of Motor vibrations is true then a planet that has a
Motor Dynamo, should have
active plate tectonics. Now Jupiter has an active Motor Dynamo, but
can we say it has
plates to move on its surface? Well it does have metallic hydrogen and
helium. Can the red spot
of Jupiter be a Continental Plate as a metallic hydrogen-helium plate?
Perhaps I am stretching
it.


any more and the idea will become tenuous. jupiter is a GAS GIANT.
it does not have any visible solid mass but very deep clouds of gas and
methane.


Perhaps I should have added alot more question marks ???? to indicate
that it was a thought in passing. I did include "I am stretching it"

But let me just dwell a little bit on Jupiter and its Red Spot. I
realize
the science community believes the Red Spot is some sort of
weather activity such as a tornado. But let us examine that belief
to see if it really holds up under commonsense.

The last time I discussed Jupiter's Red Spot was in the 1990s where
I made the guess that it was not weather of tornado but rather it was
the entrance wound of a swallowing up of a massive impact, perhaps a
satellite sized impact or a large asteroid or large comet. The mass of
the impact has been digested into Jupiter's core region but the debris
stream is the red color from iron of the impact.

Now, let us apply some commonsense logic to Jupiter's Red Spot.

Suppose we look at Earth from Jupiter and we see blue water and we
see clouds. Now if we see a weather activity such as a tornado or a
hurricane, should we see a large color spot far different in color
from
all other weather activities? Of course not. If we see a tornado on
Earth or a hurricane on Earth do we expect the color of it to be
different
from all other colors of weather activity? Not if we are thinking
clearly.

So now, back to Jupiter. Does it make much sense that Jupiter has
only one large spot that is colored red and no other red spots ever
seen on Jupiter? And so, if this Red Spot is the only ever red spot
seen on Jupiter, does it make sense to say it is a weather activity?
No, it does not make commonsense to call the Red Spot a weather
activity
when all other weather activities on Jupiter have a different color.

So, that leaves me to the likely conclusion that the Red Spot of
Jupiter is
not a weather phenomenon but of something far different then weather.

Now because Jupiter surface is like nothing we are familar with on
Earth or
the other planets of Mercury, Venus and Mars. Because Jupiter surface
is
metallic hydrogen metallic helium, our senses of what a Red Spot is
can be
very much deceived. It is fair to say the Red Spot is something
altogether new
to us given the conditions on the planet Jupiter.

Because the color is red and no other red spots have ever been seen on
Jupiter
sort of rules out the possibility of it being a weather related
activity.

That leaves two possibilities open, and that it is a site of impact in
which the iron
bolide was swallowed and leaving behind a red stain. Or, the red spot
is a plate of
substance that is lighter than the plates it rests upon and is a plate
tectonic moving
around much like a continent on Earth moving around, only the Red Spot
moves
around much faster on Jupiter since the surface is metallic and the
dynamo of Jupiter
is thousands of times more power than Earth's so there is alot of
Vibration.

Now I hope I left alot of question marks ???? in the above to indicate
conjecture.
But the logic of the red color is commonsense, which astronomers who
believe in
a weather pattern have not used commonsense.


Mars and Venus have signs of past plate tectonics. Neither one of
these planets has an
active dynamo motor in its core.
\
the prblem with Venus is the heat. so no sensors will tell us
about motions.


But this is the beauty of Venus, in that the Plate Tectonic theory is
based
on heat driving Earth's crustal plates as conveyor belt. Well, Venus
should
have huge plate tectonic motion for all of its heat. Whereas the
Dynamo-Motor
theory would say no drifting of plates on Venus since the motor is
shut down
in Venus.

Likewise for Mercury, that the geologists who accept plate tectonics
expect alot
of motion on Mercury since it has so much heat to dissipate. But we
see no
motion on Mercury in agreement with the fact that the dynamo motor of
Mercury
is turned off.

Geologists who believe in plate tectonics should also believe Mars
would have
extensive plate motions since Mars does have heat in its interior. But
we see
no plate motion and we see no dynamo-motor on Mars.


Mars is too cold but Venus is similar to the earth.


The interior of Mars has alot of heat that should translate into plate
tectonic
motion of the subduction believers. But Mars shows no signs of motion
and
Mars has no dynamo motor.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

Did some searching around to see if there are other red spots on
Jupiter and found that
the Great Red Spot is not unique, albeit the largest.

Found this website informative:

--- quoting in part ---
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/0...d-spot-02.html

Jan. 14, 2008 -- The mysterious Great Red Spot of Jupiter may be
providing an opportunity
to see how the giant planet works, say researchers.

Spacecraft observations of the way bands of high winds scream past the
Red Spot show
how the spot -- inaccurately described as a storm -- is actually far
calmer than other
parts of the Jovian atmosphere.

"The Red Spot is very quiet at its center," said Jupiter researcher
Philip Marcus of the
University of California at Berkeley.

The winds at the center are just 9 or 10 miles per hour, whereas
around the perimeter
they exceed 200 miles per hour.
--- end quoting ---

So apparently my suggestion of a buried bolide or some feature of
Plate Tectonics are
wrong and that the Red Spot is a atmospheric feature.

I guess the lesson I learned is the always, facts and data are more
important then commonsense
and figuring out.

I forgotten whether a few years back a comet, ?Shoemaker Levy, I think
was the name
and whether it was swallowed by Jupiter. And although it is mostly
ice, whether some
solid materials slammed into Jupiter and whether there is a scar from
that impact? So I need
to find out that fact which may provide some answer as to whether the
Red Spot had something
to do with a impact. If I remember the comet left no scar.

P.S. I do not mind making mistakes and blunders, which is the price we
all pay in doing
science

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

I played around with my fiberglass board with plastic strips as
continents and with a electric
shaver as vibrator. The board has a trough at perimeter and once the
strips land in a trought
they never get out.

So looking on the geography of Earth, most continents seem to end up
in the North Pole
region of at the South Pole. So it appears that the poles are troughs
for continents. This makes
sense in that Earth is an oblate spheroid and so the poles would be
troughs of gravity. So
once the continents get into these troughs they seem to never move out
of them. The
most mass of continents is in a region of Russia to Indonesia to the
top half of Africa. So
this outlines a trough of the Surface of Earth.

So about French Polynesia is the center of the least amount of
continental mass. So it must
be the bulk of the armature of the interior motor of Earth.

Now if we can get some information of the inner and outer cores of
Earth as to a armature
configuration and whether the bulk of the armature is located directly
below French
Polynesia, then I would say we approach proving the Vibration theory.
So that if the dynamo
of Earth matches the overall motion of continents implies one causes
the other. So do we
have sophisticated scanner devices to tell us if the bulk of the
interior dynamo is directly
below French Polynesia?

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
I played around with my fiberglass board with plastic strips as
continents and with a electric
shaver as vibrator. The board has a trough at perimeter and once the
strips land in a trought
they never get out.

So looking on the geography of Earth, most continents seem to end up
in the North Pole
region of at the South Pole. So it appears that the poles are troughs
for continents. This makes
sense in that Earth is an oblate spheroid and so the poles would be
troughs of gravity. So
once the continents get into these troughs they seem to never move out
of them. The
most mass of continents is in a region of Russia to Indonesia to the
top half of Africa. So
this outlines a trough of the Surface of Earth.

So about French Polynesia is the center of the least amount of
continental mass. So it must
be the bulk of the armature of the interior motor of Earth.

Now if we can get some information of the inner and outer cores of
Earth as to a armature
configuration and whether the bulk of the armature is located directly
below French
Polynesia, then I would say we approach proving the Vibration theory.
So that if the dynamo
of Earth matches the overall motion of continents implies one causes
the other. So do we
have sophisticated scanner devices to tell us if the bulk of the
interior dynamo is directly
below French Polynesia?


An oblate spheroid for Earth overall would explain the continents
stuck in the
trough of the North Pole for the most part.

But the question occurs as to why the imbalance of the Vibrations as
emanating
from the southern hemisphere of around French Polynesia? Is the inner
core
shaped like a pear or like a oblate spheroid? Or is the inner core
shaped like
a sphere.

The same question for the liquid outer core?

I could not find any answers.

Maybe it is too difficult to detect the geometrical shape of the inner
and outer cores.

With my experiment of soap cakes on the refrigerator top being
vibrated, the direction
of motion depends in large part on the location of the motor. Also
with my fiberglass
board and strips of plastic vibrated by electric shaver is dependent
on location of the
shaver. So a deviation from sphere shape of the
cores would imply a preferential direction of motion of the
continents.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies