On Mar 22, 11:40 am, Jeff$B"%(BRelf wrote:
Face it Hanson, you're obsessed with Einstein,
he's all you ever talk about.

Looking at Nade's IP address ( 122.53.86.160 ),
I see he's using Google on IE7 on Windows Vista
on the $B!H(B Philippine Long Distance Telephone $B!I(B in $B!H(B Makati City $B!I(B.

Michael Varney posts from the University of Colorado, Boulder,
and uses Mozilla Thunderbird. Last we heard from him,
he said he has a life ( working on quantum gravity at the NIST );
so he doesn't post here anymore.

Back when he was posting, he seldom mentioned physics,
if I recall correctly.

Then how do you know what physics he was working
on?

- Randy

"Androcles" wrote in message
. ..
Have a look at this for me, pal. I'm curious as to how well it works
on another computer other than my own.
It's a Keplerian orbit plot, all you need change are the numbers in
the yellow boxes. You can ignore the questions the operating
system spits out.

hanson wrote:
Happy Easter, dude.
Well, I snipped the Relf-**** stuff, after which only your
5 lines above manifested on this XP platform with OE6.

I had you post checked on Win 98, 2000 prof, and 2 Vista
machines... All reported only your 5 lines above. Not even
an url/link was evident --- Maybe self-anointed c-guru Jeff
has better luck with his profound probing about who is who
with what n'where ... ahahahahaha -- So, try again, Andro...
hanson

"hanson" wrote in message
news:VueFj.1190$VK4.941@trnddc08...
| "Androcles" wrote in message
| . ..
| Have a look at this for me, pal. I'm curious as to how well it works
| on another computer other than my own.
| It's a Keplerian orbit plot, all you need change are the numbers in
| the yellow boxes. You can ignore the questions the operating
| system spits out.
|
| hanson wrote:
| Happy Easter, dude.

You too if the first Sunday after the first full Moon after the Spring
equinox (which this year happened to coincide) is important to you. :-)
The frigging tree outside my window is in blossom and the wind is
taking it right off again as fast as it grows. Snow is forecast... oh well.



| Well, I snipped the Relf-**** stuff, after which only your
| 5 lines above manifested on this XP platform with OE6.

Using Outlook Express you can go to
Message/
Create Rule from Message/
Where the message is from "Relf"/
Delete it/

But don't tell Smiffy, Relf has him by the ******** by changing
the number part of his name automatically and defeating Smiffy's
kill file. I gotta like Relf for doing that. :-)

|
| I had you post checked on Win 98, 2000 prof, and 2 Vista
| machines... All reported only your 5 lines above. Not even
| an url/link was evident --- Maybe self-anointed c-guru Jeff
| has better luck with his profound probing about who is who
| with what n'where ... ahahahahaha -- So, try again, Andro...
| hanson

Ghost in the Machine seems to have it going at least.
What you should have got was an Excel spreadsheet in
Internet Explorer, but maybe you need Excel as well.
I'll try it with Microsoft Works, that is a freebie.

The link again is:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...rbit/Orbit.xls

"Androcles" wrote in message
k...
The link again is:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...rbit/Orbit.xls

hanson:
NOW that your link arrived, double clicking on it worked just fine.
0.7 / 360 gives an elliptic segment from 300-600 o'clock pos.
0.2 / 85 gives an circle segment from 330-1100 o'clock pos.
0.9 / 560 gives an ellipse segment from 300-600 o'clock pos.
0.001/1000 = an ellipse segment from 330-400 o'clock pos.
Bitch'n!
The color of the curve display dots appear in pale pink color
Hard to see.
hanson

****! Gotta run! Pool pump in the grotto just "exploded"
Water's all over!... ahahahaha.... lata alligata!....

Most of what I know about Michael Varney came from PMB ( Pete );
Pete posted a news article about him, with a picture of him at work.

Who's “ Smiffy � ? I'm glad to see you're using Excel.

The randomly generated letters in my email address
are there to foil email harvesters;
I'm trying to “ bounce flood � their inboxes.

As you noted, you can score me this way:
“ Outlook ( or, on Vista, Windows Mail ) -- Message
-- Create Rule -- Where the message is from ‘ Relf ’ �.

"hanson" wrote in message
news:maiFj.4737$Oj5.4452@trnddc06...
| "Androcles" wrote in message
| k...
| The link again is:
| http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...rbit/Orbit.xls
|
| hanson:
| NOW that your link arrived, double clicking on it worked just fine.

Oops! Did I leave it out? Dang, I really am as stupid as so many tell me.


| 0.7 / 360 gives an elliptic segment from 300-600 o'clock pos.
| 0.2 / 85 gives an circle segment from 330-1100 o'clock pos.
| 0.9 / 560 gives an ellipse segment from 300-600 o'clock pos.
| 0.001/1000 = an ellipse segment from 330-400 o'clock pos.

Yes, ok. Unfortunately I have to increase the size of the spreadsheet
as a function of the number of points, so the limitation is about 60.



| Bitch'n!
| The color of the curve display dots appear in pale pink color
| Hard to see.

That I can fix, but it may be that your monitor needs a tune up. :-)
My flat widescreen LCD has a slight tendency toward pink when
it should really be grey; which is nowhere near as good as my
Compaq CRT monitor, colourwise. Fashion dictates that tubes
are out of fashion because they have the wrong aspect ratio, 3:4
instead of 3^2: 4^2, 9:16, and fashion is just like green tree-hugging
****. Whatever sells is GOOD, or so we are to believe. And we
go along with it, the message is not good unless it is fashionable.
To think that I stared at 1024x768 pixels for all the years when
I could have understood physics much better with 1440 x 900
pixels...and spent money.
Anyway, the page works, that's what mattered.
Copernicus.exe (which I wrote over 15 years ago) allows
for 10,000,000 points. 100,000,000 points and you need a
faster computer. I'm not planning on increasing the point count
for a spreadsheet.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...rnicus/LCV.htm

Thanks for your help, it is appreciated. Now go fix the pool pump.


| hanson
|
| ****! Gotta run! Pool pump in the grotto just "exploded"
| Water's all over!... ahahahaha.... lata alligata!....
|
|
|

I don't know what the original poster is complaining about, since you
don't quote him/her, and break threading, but:

The randomly generated letters in my email address
are there to foil email harvesters;
I'm trying to M-bM-^@M-^\ bounce flood M-bM-^@M-^] their inboxes.

That is evil of you, since the victims of bounce floods are whichever
email addresses the spammers forge in the "From:" lines of the spam emails,
not the spammers themselves. Fortunately, your strategy doesn't actually
make things any worse, since there will be one bounce per spam sent to a
broken email server, regardless of what is in the "To:" field.

Just use a nonfunctional email in your From: and leave it at that, like
what I do.

Go read news.admin.net-abuse.email and check out the woes of the owner
of cotse.com, which is being swamped by bounce floods, which is probably
deliberately being done by a spammer.

You told me: “ Go read news.admin.net-abuse.email �
( Stephen K. Gielda's posts, the owner of Cotse.NET, using FreeBSD ).

Hmmm... as you noted, bouncing is evil;
so my “ From � field now reads: “ Jeff▲Relf �.

Just to be safe, my Message-ID's now end in “ X.Invalid �, like this:
“ �.

Steve says he's getting: “ over 50 million [ bounces ] per day �,
“ over 10,000 connections a second during it's peak
from almost every major mail server
and a plethora of bit players and lasted over five days. �.

He says “ It's maxing out a 100MB full duplex NIC. �.
It locked up a quad machine with a giga bit ethernet card
and people are telling him to throw more resources at it.

He wrote:
“ [ Cotse ] currently hosts over ten thousand domains
and normal mail volume is around 40 million a day.

They just flattened whatever I put in front of this flood.
Machines would not even stay up to issue 5xx errors. �.

These emails are All using “ Cotse.COM � ( my email is at Cotse.NET )
in the “ From � field, so he's set up several machines with gigE cards
to handle emails bouncing “ Back � ( ha ha ) to “ Cotse.COM �.

That's called “ Load Balancing �.

Also, he gets hit hard with credit card fraud,
and it costs him 25 dollars per mistake.
Banks love credit card fraud, they make big money off it.

On Mar 21, 6:51*pm, "Robert J. Kolker" wrote:
maxwell wrote:

Tom, I was making a point about the physics, NOT some mathematical
comment about two points that are infinitely close together or
Einstein's mental processes. *By introducing the term 'manifold' you
have already left the world of reality (physics) and landed on Plato's
planet of invariant relationships (math). *Instead of writing
mathematical gobbleygook like "SR is a consequence of local symmetries
of the universe" why not talk about real phenomena, like electricity.
SR is supposed to work at macro-separations: stop hiding behind
infinitessimals, such as 'local symmetries'. *SR is a theory of EM
(check out your history - what do you think Larmor, Poincare & Lorentz
were doing?).

Making mistakes. Lorentz admitted that Einstein's approach was the best.
Every covariant theory of gravitation requires manifolds.

The fact of the matter is that mathematics is the horse upon which
physics rides. Newton did not come up with his theory of motion until he
invented calculus, complete with infinitesimals.

The equations ARE the theory.

Bob Kolker
Wrong again, Bob. Calculus was introduced to SOLVE the equations, not
to derive the ideas, which were in the tradition of natural philosophy
- a subject that mathematicians like yourself feel really
uncomfortable with. Check out Principia.