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(To Moderator: Sorry for reposting. I wanted to correct a spelling error.)
" If two inertial observers exchange light signals they will observe the same Doppler effect." This is sometimes used in special relativity derivations. I don't doubt it but I wondered if there has ever been an experiment to directly test this and perhaps put an upper limit on any deviation. What experimental evidence could I cite for it? (I'm not talking about symmetry of Doppler broadened spectral lines. I'm asking about the much simpler question of two observers in relative motion exchanging light signals and measuring the Doppler shifts.) David Park http://home.earthlink.net/~djmp/ |
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"David Park" wrote in message ink.net...
(To Moderator: Sorry for reposting. I wanted to correct a spelling error.) " If two inertial observers exchange light signals they will observe the same Doppler effect." This is sometimes used in special relativity derivations. I don't doubt it but I wondered if there has ever been an experiment to directly test this and perhaps put an upper limit on any deviation. What experimental evidence could I cite for it? (I'm not talking about symmetry of Doppler broadened spectral lines. I'm asking about the much simpler question of two observers in relative motion exchanging light signals and measuring the Doppler shifts.) David Park http://home.earthlink.net/~djmp/ The usual perception of the Doppler effect is based simply on the basic logic of the Doppler shift (like counting of wavecrests) and the (postulate of) constancy of c in SR. Most people take this to be sufficient for their needs and the issue of deviations does not seem to have been considered in the peer-reviewed literature. Note that a spectral deviation would be considered as measurement error or noise if did not show up consistently, so we would presumably want to examine the case of systematic deviations if any. Such a deviation could mean viewed as (a) a systematic error in our distance/velocity scales in the context where the deviation was observed, (b) a systematic error in our theories predicting the distance/velocity distributions in that context, or (c) a systematic spectrometric error. Cases (a) and (b) are already involved in the contexts of the cosmological acceleration, the galactic rotation profile and the Pioneer anomalous acceleration problems. In gr-qc/0005014, Section II, I examined case (c) by applying the usual partial differential error sensitivity analysis to spectrometry, with respect to the local reference frame units of scale. I withdrew it after acceptance by the editor of a peer-reviewed journal because I was not satisfied with my articulation, and because it leads to speculative physics out of step with mainstream thinking - the 3 step result looks identical to an apparent linear expansion or contraction of the universe relative to the observer with the erroneous spectrometer, replete with an acceleration in the exact ratio as the cosmological. So please be warned it's unpublished in a peer-reviewed journal and got into arxiv.org before endorsements, so I can't even clean it up and fully deserve all the flames I've got. -prasad. |
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