Joe Fischer wrote:
On 26 Nov 2005 14:55:16 -0800, "Neil G" wrote:

Joe Fischer wrote:
[snip]
The constant c is merely the value "measured"
by every accurate experiment, and nothing more than
that should be considered a "fact".

here are we have a problem, tha measurements of the
detectings are electrons,

Not usually or at least not always. There are
optical methods to make measurements and photographic
methods, and no telling how may other ways.

exactly,

exactly what i just said, also the detectings on the photographics
or whatever, thay are still electrons, it's obvious

kindly regards



which dont propagates but
vibrate, so c is if you wish is a delay not speed, its tha
time it take to the surrounding electrons to start vibrating

I think electrical current through a conductor is electrons,
and that is measured at nearly what c is in empty space, depending
on the material of the conductor.

In any case, I don't know if "speed" or even "velocity"
gives the true picture of the propagation of light.
In the frame with the photon in empty space, light
is said to "travel" from source to detector in zero time.

that's an artifact, similar to "gravity" for instance as you say


Perhaps there should be a week indoctrination class
at the beginning of each semester to explain that what is
beiing taught this year is preparation for what is being
taught next year, and there may not seem to be any
connection between the two.

ahaha


Or maybe a pill to cause loss of memory of everything
Newtonian when starting graduate school.

mister newton tok what was good at that time an made it
usefull, he is a classical and and an original


Joe Fischer