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Old October 29th 05 posted to sci.physics.relativity
Androcles
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Default Time dilatation and a space referential


"CFran" wrote in message ups.com...
| If I got it right, the faster you go, the slower time goes for you.

You got it wrong.


|
| But there's something that seems weird to me, if this is true (I don't
| doubt it is),

I would if I were you, it is nonsense.


then there must be a referential, I mean, there must be a
| certain speed and direction in the universe which makes time go the
| fastest, in other words, "if you go faster time goes slower for you",
| faster compared to what?

Eggsactly.

|
| Is there something like a speed zero, where time goes the fastest?

I'm travelling at speed zero right now.


| Because, as I understand it, it seems that if you throw a whole lots of
| probes in various directions and at various speeds, there will be one
| that will have it's clock running faster than the others, and it will
| be the one going the slowest (compared to a referential, well I guess).

You don't understand it. It's hoax, I'll explain it.

The most recent accusations of forgery made against Ptolemy came from Newton in [12]. He begins this book by stating clearly his views:-

This is the story of a scientific crime. ... I mean a crime committed by a scientist against fellow scientists and scholars, a betrayal of the ethics and integrity of his profession that has forever deprived mankind of fundamental information about an important area of astronomy and history.

Towards the end Newton, having claimed to prove every observation claimed by Ptolemy in the Almagest was fabricated, writes [12]:-

[Ptolemy] developed certain astronomical theories and discovered that they were not consistent with observation. Instead of abandoning the theories, he deliberately fabricated observations from the theories so that he could claim that the observations prove the validity of his theories. In every scientific or scholarly setting known, this practice is called fraud, and it is a crime against science and scholarship.
http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~...s/Ptolemy.html

The most recent accusations of forgery made against Einstein came from Androcles right now. He begins this accusation by stating clearly his views:-

This is the story of a scientific crime. ... I mean a crime committed by a scientist against fellow scientists and scholars, a betrayal of the ethics and integrity of his profession that has forever deprived mankind of fundamental information about an important area of astronomy and history.

Towards the end Androcles, having claimed to prove every observation claimed by Einstein in the theory of relativity was fabricated, writes:-

Einstein developed certain physical theories and discovered that they were not consistent with observation. Instead of abandoning the theories, he deliberately fabricated observations from the theories so that he could claim that the observations prove the validity of his theories. In every scientific or scholarly setting known, this practice is called fraud, and it is a crime against science and scholarship.


| Same for the speed limit in the universe, nothing can go faster than c,
| ok, but, compared to what referential?

Not ok. Nonsense.
Cosmic muons originating in the upper atsmosphere 100 Km have a
life span of 2.2 usec athreach sea level. Therefore their speed is 15c.
Idiots accepted certain physical theories and discovered that they were not consistent with observation. Instead of abandoning the theories, they deliberately fabricated observations from the theories so that he could claim that the observations prove the validity of the theories.




| I mean, if you throw a whole lot
| of probes at the same time from one unique moving point in any
| direction at speed c (or close), where will be the middle between all
| these probes. If you are going at half of c (once again, compared to
| what, yeah i'm very confused with that) and throw a rocket that can get
| near c in the direction you're going, and another one like this in the
| opposite direction, the middle between those two rockets wont be you,
| or one rocket would go at 1.5 c.

Of course. Einstein was a fraud.

|
| And please explain things simply, you all know how hard it can be to
| understand/admitt all those weird relativity things, thanks.

Oh, its as simple as it can be. In order to be a successful confidence
trickster you have to have the appearance of being Mr. Nice Guy.
The greatest genius of all time pulled off the greatest hoax of all time,
and it does take genius to fool most of the people all of the time.
Even if you point it out to them, they'll be too embarrassed to admit
they were duped. But duped they are.
Look at Michelson pointing the finger and grinning at the scruffy
con-artist without the detachable collar who is too embarrassed
to face the camera.
http://www.oisc.net/scientist.jpg

Androcles.



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