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Old September 12th 05 posted to sci.math,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
Dik T. Winter
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In article . com "Schoenfeld" writes:
Dik T. Winter wrote:

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Axiom: Additive Identity
for all x there exists y such that x + y = x
guarantees an additive identity.


Nope. The axiom is "there is an y such that for all x: x + y = x".
Something slightly different.


Is that your way of dodging an error you made but tacticly did not
explicitly write?

The statement,
Axiom: Additive Identity
"for all x there exists y such that x + y = x"
defines an additive identity for all x.


No it does not. Consider the following addition table:
+ a b c
a a c b
b c b a
c b a c

For each 'x' there is an 'y' such that 'x + y = x'. But there is not
an additive identity.

Your error was assuming that no such y existed because no such number
exists, but to get numbers you need a ring and the axiom above is not
compatable with that of a ring.


I am assuming nothing about numbers at all. I only look at the axiom
and sees that it does not define an additive identity.
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