Uncle Al wrote in message ...
abracad wrote:

The so-called anthropic principle points out how finely tuned the
universe is to support life.


Life is finely tuned to exist in the universe. There is no anthropic
principle.

Uncle Al's got it. What universe is this anthropic principle looking
at? The one which is 80-something percent composed of "dark matter"
and "dark energy" which is finely tuned to be completely
ununderstandable and imperceptible to us (except as necessary to
balance our ambitious equations -- more of a 'precise throwing up the
hands in defeat' than an intellect-friendly universe), plus being
99.astronomicalnumbersofnines percent unsupportable of our living
bodies? We're hiding in a 'corner', a sweet tit of a gravity well
which is by nature temporary and by the relative scales under
discussion UNBELEIVABLY BRIEF! I think this anthropic principle is
more of a vague 'final cause' thing to suppose that because we exist,
there must be some special place for us in the heart of the universe,
it must have planned to 'have' us all along. Just so happens I agree
with that........ doesn't mean, however, that part of our 'special
place' isn't to be wiped out suddenly with no chance to compose our
swan song and beam it into space to be inevitably received by some
intelligence who can appreciate it. We can't imagine an end or
beginning to our collective existence so it has to stretch to the
beginning and end of the universe to keep us from screaming. Fine,
build that, but keep in mind that it's a will-to-power...... that's an
IDEAL we'd like to CREATE...... and we CAN create it, but not by
pretending that's the way it....... IS, without us........ MAKING it.
The Stark Fist of Removal is ready at any time to cancel our show, and
if we don't have an exit strategy we can kiss our
eventually-'always-already'-anthropic-universe dreams goodbye.