did you ever hared me saying that we can know momentum and position at
the same time???!!

i never said that
i only said that the HUP can be bypassed by other knowledge
while there is no need at all to know momentum and position at the same
time
in order to know much more than you imagine!!!
see for instance my model in my site
i show there the geometric structure of the nuc
*without length scale* and i say 'not proportional!!
we can know for instance the relative positions of particles
as you can know the relative positions of buildings in your street
without telling what is the length scale there
and i keep on bringing a simple example that you never answered me :

if we know the Deuteron is composed of a Proton and a neutron---
can we say that they are located one next to the other??
while we know they can be separated and combined not too difficultly
and many other facts about them
so can we say:
if they are one next to the other than can we assume with a highest
probability that the shape of the deuteron is something longish??

will you answer me that question once and for all
in order of making some advance beside the
QM mumbling that you dont stop dashing in ?

and without admitting that(once and for all) all your above discussion
is one big mumbling???
IE not admitting to say:
'we have no green idea what is making any attraction force ??!!!

btw the spell checker fount about 20 mistakes in my post ....
and probably there are still more .(:-)

TIA
Y.Porat
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