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Old May 15th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics
Y.y.Porat
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Default Where is the electric current in a permanent magnet?

On May 15, 12:33*am, George Hammond wrote:
On Sun, 11 May 2008 11:02:58 -0500, Tom Roberts

wrote:
PCB wrote:
I read somewhere that only electric currents generate magnetic fields.


That is incorrect. The intrinsic spins of elementary particles also
produce magnetic fields.


[Hammond]
* *At present there is no scientific explanation of WHY the
electron has "spin" angular momentum and consequently a
magnetic dipole moment. *It is only an experimentally
discovered *fact which was then inserted ad hoc into QED by

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untill here
very nice saied !!!!
yet that is not properly internalised by too many
crackparroters !!!!!

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Dirac in the 1920's where it remains today.
* *Interestingly, J.R. Yablon (on this newsgroup, *s.p.r.)
has shown that circulation of the electron in the 5th Kaluza
Klein dimension can actually explain the "spin" of the
electron, in fact the spin and the magnetic moment of all
the charged leptons. *K-K posits that a 4th spatial
dimension is curled up in a circle on the order of the
Planck Length and the electron moves at a constant velocity

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now for your information

the electron does not orbit all around the nuc !!
b

the formulas of an orbiting object
are exacty as those of a VIBRATION HARMONICALLY

object!!
so according to my new findigs about nuclear and Atomic structure

the electron does not orbit
BUT VIBRATE
sort of a vibration of a rodd or a string!!

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q/m in that dimension, and it is precisely that circular
"current" that causes the magnetic dipole moment of the
electron and hence "permanent magnets" so called.
* *Yablon is a highly competent mathematical physicist and
his paper has been reviewed by Phys. Rev. *I have read the
review (wch. was posted on s.p.r.) and apparently they
rejected the paper solely on the grounds that the idea was
too shocking and simple to possibly be true! *Which as
anyone can see is a quite inadequate and unfair response!
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i dont know about that specific case but
simple is not a disadvantage
quite the opposite (:-)
nature is not cleeaver enough to understand some
crackparoters 'sophysications '
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ATB
Y.Porat
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