On Mon, 12 May 2008 00:56:20 +0100, "Androcles"
wrote:


"Dr. Henri Wilson" HW@.... wrote in message
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| On Sun, 11 May 2008 09:56:20 +0100, "Androcles"



|
| For one ray, (c+v)t = (2pi+alpha)R, for the other (c-v)t = (2pi-alpha)R.
|
| alphaR = vt, you silly old dope.
| You are saying that ct = 2piR.

Which it does, and
(c+v)t = (2pi + alpha)R,
(c-v)t = (2pi - alpha)R.

OK, that's viewed in the nonrotating frame. Alpha is the angle the
source/detector moves through during the time it takes for light to go around
the ring.

My equation is for the rotating frame in which both rays appear to move at c
wrt the source/detector.
ct = 2piR + alphaR
Alpha is the angle through which the STATIONARY EMISSION POINT of each 'ray
element' moves (backwards) in the rotating frame.

Relativists Roberts, Andersen et al have persistently failed to acknowlegde
that this happens...which is why their traditional refutation of BaTh using
Sagnac is a joke. They consider that viewing a rotating ringgyro in the
rotating frame is identical to a nonrotating gyro in the nonrotating frame.

Relativists belong at the arse end of Physics I'm afraid...but I'm sure you
know that already..

Moreover, I can make v = c/2 and it is still correct, alpha = pi, whereas
you have a
straight line effectively subtracted from a semicircle.

Look, you stupid old sheep shagger, I know what you MEAN but all we are
debating here is the correct way to describe it algebraically.
That means no ****ing change in t, only a change in distance.

t = (2pi + alpha)R / (c+v)
t = (2pi - alpha)R / (c-v)
t = 2pi.R/c

Now we do NOT have t on both sides of the equation, but your way we do.

| t is the same in both cases, only the distance changes.
|
| Ewe are near enough to a sheep, ewe have the same mathematical
| abilities as one. The drunken mind of an aussie sheep shagger works
| in strange ways, making two spelling mistakes in one sentence,
| "enought" and "straght".
|
| **** off.

Don't you mean ****t of?

Where's Poe? He's dropped off the radar for three weeks now and I
had him on the hook, begging me to tell him the experiment that
proves SR is crap. All my ducks in a row and he vanishes.

They usually disappear when they know they're beaten....



Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm

.....specialising in teaching physics to engineers and mathematicians....