On Sat, 10 May 2008 13:00:01 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
wrote:

George Hammond wrote:

On Fri, 9 May 2008 16:27:23 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On May 9, 1:04 pm, madge wrote:
On May 9, 9:54 pm, George Hammond wrote:

[Hammond]
If Man did not exist, the Sun would not even rise
tomorrow morning. In fact w/o Man there would BE no
tomorrow!

A fascist male argument George.

If man did not exist the Sun would rise on us Wimmin.

If you die the universe doesn't exist anymore,

TeeHee.


[Hammond]
Only if you're the last man.


[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]
Define 'man'.


[Hammond]
A member of the species Homo Sapiens sapiens,
offically abbreviated as (HSs).


[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]
Given the process of evolution, in the distant past a thing called 'man'
did not exist. At some point, genetic mutations caused 'man' to descend
from an earlier form.


[Hammond]
Correct, HSs appeared approximately 200,000 years ago.
The Christian Bible calls this event "Creation"; in Genesis.
It is called Creation because that is when the World
(reality as know ) it commenced.



[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]
Please identify the gene or genes that provide this particular mammalian
entity with the power to 'observe' a universe into existence.


[Hammond]
The "Human Genome" (genome of HSs) has been fully mapped
and can unequivocally identifiy any member of our species.
The facxt that we are THE ONLY LIFEFORM which has a word,
a name, or even a CONCEPT OF "existence" or "reality" is de
facto evidence that "The mind of Man is the creator of what
we call reality"; BY DEFINITION!


[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]
As evolution progresses, what we think of as 'man' will cease to exist.


[Hammond]
If and when that happens, "reality as we know it will
perish with us".


[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]
It will be replaced by a (hopefully) more advanced being.


[Hammond]
That is certainly irrelevant to us since we will be long
dead. No "competing" species can ever evolve out of the
species HSs because geographical separation is no longer
possible.



[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]
At what point in the future will the universe cease to exist?


[Hammond]
Judging from the Secular Trend Curve, Man will achieve
FULL BODILY GROWTH within "thousands" of years, a few
hundred thousand years at a MAXIMUM, and probably much, much
sooner. At that point we are all de facto in possession of
ETERNAL LIFE, so extinction, from any cause is IRRELEVANT
after that; the advent of Kingdom Come so called.
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