George Hammond wrote:

On Mon, 05 May 2008 21:21:07 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
wrote:

George Hammond wrote:

[snip]

1) The "existence", of anything, depends entirely on the
sensory perception of Man. There IS NO definition
of the word "existence" that is independent of the
action of a HUMAN observer.


[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]
That's an idea that a child ceases to believe at around 1 year of age.


[Hammond]
unsupported assertion, irrelevant.

[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]
After that age, they seem to be able to comprehend the idea that objects
persist even when they leave their field of view.


[Hammond]
We're NOT talking about THAT dummy..... we're concerned
here about what would happen is ALL PEOPLE WERE DEAD, and
we are concerned about what happened when ALL PEOPLE
SUDDENLY APPEARED 200,000 YEARS AGO.
Get real, pay attention, wake up.
If all people ceased to exist, reality would cease to exist
with them, since reality, BY DEFINITON, does not exist
without MAN to observe it into "reality".

Prove that man exists. Without relying on the need for man to observe
himself, as that would be circular logic.


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