On May 5, 3:18*pm, Smooth John wrote:
On May 5, 9:59 pm, PD wrote:



On May 5, 2:16 pm, Smooth John wrote:

On May 5, 9:06 pm, PD wrote:

On May 5, 1:57 pm, Smooth John wrote:

On May 5, 3:22 pm, Don Stockbauer wrote:

What property of space, time or matter makes the universe three
dimensionally?

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The fact that it has 3 spacial dimensions.

This is what they say, but I ask again. What property of matter
makes space three dimensional?

It's not matter that forces the issue.

It cant be the atom, because atoms are not three dimensional, they are
not
thick.

What in heavens name makes you think that?

I just said, reread.

When you look at electrons around nuclei, they are not there.

This means that atoms have not thickness as property.

Don't be silly. It means that puffins do not eat breakfast cereal. It
has nothing to do with whether atoms have thickness as a property.

Why insults, have you no arguments?

Because in science some things are settled by empirical evidence, not
by arguments. If you want arguments about things that do not hinge on
empirical evidence, you could try alt.philosophy.


Space and time are not existent, they are mental construction, based
on the 5 senses most of people have.

So you say.


Close your eyes and put your fingers in your ears. Space will
disappear.

OK, close your eyes and put your fingers in your ears and then wait
for a rock to come bonk you on the head, and then tell me the rock
could not have sailed through space to arrive at your head.

You cant walk, because you have no space to walk in. You only have
some
detectors, which is not space. That can be a plane not space.



Look up "monolayer".

Where?


Oh, say, he http://www.google.com/search?q=monolayer&btnG=Search



There must
be something else.

However, you may be the first individual on this planet seeing
electrons
around nuclei.

Have a picture? I mean a photo?

You mean, with light? Using a wavelength that is larger than the size
of the object it's looking at? Got any idea what kind of luck you'll
have with that?

So you have nothing,

No, I have something. Just not a photo. If a photo is the only
"something" you'll accept, then you are indeed limited in your tools
of knowledge acquisition.

But if you'd like, you could also pick up a penny and note that the
penny has definite thickness, even though that thickness is built up
from layers of atoms:
http://www.webelements.com/webelemen...t/Cu/xtal.html
Now, if the atoms were 2-dimensional, then stacking sheets of flat
atoms would also result in a 2-D penny, which is counter to
observation.
Note that empirical evidence generally trumps any argument. At least
in physics. Not in politics or philosophy, but you aren't in those
newsgroups, are you?

I am right and you are wrong. Come back when you
see
an atom which is thick.

Atoms dont need space, they are flat.



Because when you look at electrons, they are not there, they say.
Atoms are not thick.