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Old May 5th 08 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,rec.org.mensa
Koobee Wublee
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Default Kip Thorn and the excuse of black holes

On May 4, 7:20 pm, Eric Gisse wrote:
On May 4, 4:27 pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:


Then, you have to justify why Schwarzschild’s original solution is a
transform of Hilbert’s solution, and Mr. Corthers has to justify why
Hilbert’s solution is a transform of Schwarzschild’s original
solution. As I have pointed out, both solutions are asymptotically
flat, spherically symmetric, and static. Both solutions at weak
gravitation are compatible with Newtonian law of gravity. So, what
else decides them apart?


Nothing decides them apart as they are the exact same solution in
different coordinate systems. This has been explained to you so many
times it is unbelievable.


When the field equations are written in their specific form waiting
for the solutions to be solved, the set of coordinate system is
already decided. You can never change the coordinate system to any of
the solutions to the field equations. Yet, you do. You have been
caught in this voodoo mathematics in the act, and you have lost.
shrug

We have asked you to show how they are different solutions by actually
computing something, yet you can't. What does that say?


I have shown you many times including the sentence above. You still
don’t get it. shrug

BTW - Crothers is a fantastic idiot. Is he where you get your
arguments?


No. Mr. Crothers is as guilty as all the physicists who BELIEVE IN
the Schwarzschild metric. The only difference is that he BELIEVES IN
Schwarzschild’s original solution. My point is that they are not
valid to represent the real world because of the foul mathematical
foundation of GR. shrug

It depends on if you decide on Schwarzschild’s original solution being
a transform of Hilbert’s solution or vice versa. What gives you the
right to play God by deciding which solution is a transform of
another?


Where do you get it in your head that one is "playing god" by
preferring a particular coordinate system?


You selectively choose solutions to produce black holes or not to.
Just how difficult can it get to answer your stupid question? That is
why you remain a multi-year super-senior at the very prestigious
University of Alaska where they pay and beg you to go to school.
shrug


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