Kip Thorn and the excuse of black holes
On May 4, 1:49 am, Eric Gisse wrote:
On May 3, 9:50 pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:
On May 3, 10:01 pm, Eric Gisse wrote:
Schwarzschild’s original solution to the field equations does not
manifest black holes, but Hilbert’s solution does which is known as
the Schwarzschild metric. Both solutions are asymptotically flat,
spherically symmetric, and static. Both solutions at weak gravitation
are compatible with Newtonian law of gravity. In fact, there are an
infinity numbers of such solutions that fit these criteria.
They are all the same solution, idiot.
Oh, excuse me. I am still getting BS responses from a multi-year
super senior at the University of Alaska. Well, my post still
stands. CHECKMATE
Having black holes or no black holes is a serious matter and not an
issue of terminology. You are very guilty of creating mysticism and
passing it on as wisdom.
** MYSTICISM IS NOT WIDSOM
Schwarzschild’s original solution to the field equations does not
manifest black holes, but Hilbert’s solution does which is known as
the Schwarzschild metric. Both solutions are asymptotically flat,
spherically symmetric, and static. Both solutions at weak gravitation
are compatible with Newtonian law of gravity. In fact, there are an
infinity numbers of such solutions that fit these criteria.
Scientifically, there should be no preference as to which solution is
more valid. But through mysticism, you favor the Schwarzschild metric
for some reasons involving the black art.
What you were told before and still do not understand:
* The Schwarzschild and Hilbert solutions are the same solution. There
is a coordinate mapping between the two.
* Black holes are still there. Changing coordinates doesn't make the
trapped surface go away.
* You are stupid.
The ultra-stupid idea that gravity is somehow
produced by matter and continues to be
produced even if you squish the
matter incredibly small- this with no other
interactions present- well, turtles all the way
down is a better answer.
*you* are an unthinking bot.
no stupidity possible as no thought being thought
:-)
There are *no* black holes as conceived to
be produced by our gravity debacle.
John
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