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Old May 4th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics
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"Prof Barnhart" wrote in message
. ..
|I don't usually post here because I don't agree with the present state of
| theoretical physics.
| Specifically, why must so many equate the concept of a designed and
created
| universe with
| religious fanatacism. I will probably encounter the usual attacks and go
| away again for several years, but here goes. see below

| First as I recall, Einstein (he wasn't an idiot) equates gravity and
| acceleration. I must say here that if gravity affects the path of EMR
then
| it is logical to assume that it is a form of electromagnetism. Gravity
| "bends space." I feel that one of the problems with space/time theory in
| general is the confusing of mathematical analogy (in this case the bending
| of free space) with reality. Space is not actually bent, curved, or
warped
| by gravity. It is expressed this way in Gaussian mathematics.
|
| What is actually happening is that the path of EMR is affected by gravity
| such as to change the vectors of the propagation of EMR. The plural of
| vector is used here because
| the mass/energy relationships with sublight velocities in relation to all
| other mass/energy(gravitational) fields are relativistic. That is, they
| depart from Newtonian mechanics in to the realm of the incomprehensible.
|
| What I am trying to say is that since there is a constant change in
| direction and also an associated acceleration toward the twin standing at
| the center of motion there will be a field set up in free space that may
| give far different results than depicted in your description of the
| situation.
|
| The increase in mass due to rotational velocity will become a prominent
| factor. This will create a rotating gravitational field. What are the
| directional characteristics of the gravitational field? I doubt that they
| are non-existant.
|
| When EMR is released from a source, no matter what the velocity of the
| source, it then travels at speed c. This is the standard of reference for
| space/time theory. There is a set propagation velocity in free space for
| EMR no matter what the frequency. The velocity c could also be perceived
as
| propagation delay. This strongly indicates that free space is not empty.
| It is some sort of EM fabric with qualities that keep light transmission
to
| a reference standard.
|
| The direction of the radio waves from one twin to another is uncertain.
The
| gravitational effects are uncertain. A quanta of light may gain mass due
to
| some aspect of curvature within the confined system. If matter is in
| actuality a form of light then the EM system with light as its essence can
| be accelerated such as to increase its mass.
|
| What the gravitational field would be within your theoretical system I
| cannot say. What I do suspect is that this is a simplified model of what
is
| known as an atomic particle.
|
| That is, a rotating system that "bends" space such that a
self-perpetuating
| identity is formed. Space is not bent. What is actually happening is
| possibly something along the lines of a complex electomagnetic
relationship
| that could only be understood if the true nature of gravity was known.
|
| The actual transmission mechanism for the various forms of EMR are quite
| complex and rely on the propagation delay incorporated into free space.
To
| comprehend what gravity does to the vector relationships of EMR is,
| well...........not even Einstein could understand it.
|
| Would both clocks tick at the same rate in this situation? Possibly,
| because they are confined within the same gravitational effect.
|
| End of attempt to speculate upon something that is beyond human
| comprehension, at least for now. Mark
|
Einstein said:
the speed of light from A to B is c-v,
the speed of light from B to A is c+v,
the "time" for each journey is the same and you have to believe me
because I'm Einstein the chief theoretical physicist, numero uno, top dog.

I agree with you that he wasn't an idiot. He was a raving lunatic and so are
his disciples.

Prof Androcles




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