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Old May 4th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics
Bryan Olson
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Default What's wrong with these pictures???

kenseto wrote:
On May 2, 1:45 pm, PD wrote:
On May 2, 9:35 am, kenseto wrote:

What's wrong with these pictures???
1. In the twin paradox scenario SR claims that the traveling clock is
running at slower rate than the stay-at-home clock.


SR makes no such claim. Where are you reading such crap?
What SR tells you is precisely what will be *measured* -- that is, how
much time each twin will say has elapsed between the time of their
departure and the time of their reunion. SR does NOT make a claim
about which clock is running faster or slower in between.


So you are now saying that the SR stay-at-home observer doesn't claim
that the traveling clock is running at a slower rate....right??


Wrong. Why not look at what he did in fact say, instead of making
up statements and asking him if that's what he's saying?

Previously you admitted that every SR observer claims that all clocks
moving wrt him are running slow. Is this not a valid claim anymore?


The problem, Ken, is that you dumb down the correct statements to
match your insufficient understanding, or maybe just because you
are not honest, and from the compromised versions you draw false
conclusions. While the twins' clocks are in uniform motion (with
no significant gravitational effects) one clock is running slower
in coordinate system S; the other is running slower in coordinate
system S', where S and S' are the rest frames of the two twins.

I am *not* saying the dumbed-down version that the stay-at-home
twin's clock is running faster.

Try raising your game to the level where you can understand SR
for what it actually says. Trying to bring SR down to the level
of your current understanding has proven worse than useless.


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--Bryan
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