George Hammond wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 03:29:58 +0000 (UTC),
(Michael Moroney) wrote:
George Hammond writes:
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:49:40 -0700, none ""doug\"@(none)"
wrote:
[Doug, unverified Physics Phd claimant]
Or 12 assuming that the Greeks did not know the difference
between 12 and 13 as you have claimed earlier.
[Hammond]
Look, I already told you 3 times, the only EXACT
scientific fact is that there are EXACTLY 13-2nd ORDER
EIGENVECTORS, extracted by mainframe computers.
[Michael Moroney]
OK, EXACTLY 13 2nd order eigenvectors (however you redefine 'eigenvector').
Not 14, not 12, but EXACTLY 13. Got it.
[Hammond]
Whaddau mean "redefine eigenvector"? An eigenvector is a
principle axis of a matrix ellipsoid, whether it's in
quantum mechanics, Psychometry Factor Analysis or the moment
of Inertia in Mechanics, makes no difference. An
eigenvector is an eigenvector.
The Pagan "gods" are 2nd order psychometry eigenvectors
caused by the cubic anatomical symmetry cleavage of the
brain. They form a CUBE.
You keep making these wild humorous and unsupported assumptions.
[Hammond]
The ancients didn't know what an eigenvector is, or that
the 13-2nd orders are CUBICALLY intercorrelated. Hammond
discovered that (1994) They just took an educated guess and
called it an even DOZEN (the Greek Dodekatheon so called).
They were right to within 7.7%, pretty good for ancient
science.
12 did not equal 13 even in Greece. Look, they knew how to
count. It does not mean your conclusion is good to 7.7%, it
means that it is wrong.
[Michael Moroney]
Oh, that's rich.
[Hammond]
Rich; I don't know what food stamps are, never mind
money.
[Michael Moroney]
7.7% "pretty good for ancient science". Let's imagine,
just for a moment, that the ancient Greeks built the Parthenon with some
of the Doric columns 12 meters tall and others 13 meters tall. The 12m
and 13m columns all mixed up. That would be "pretty good for ancient
science", right? Only 7.7% off, right? Wrong - if they ever did that,
the Parthenon would look pathetic. Instead of the ancient Greeks being
revered by western society, they'd be the laughing stock of the ancient
world! I'm laughing just thinking about it!
[Hammond]
Cut the **** Moroney, measureing something with a ruler
like the Parthenon is kid stuff.
Fact is Eratosthenes estimated the Earth's circumference
around 240 BCE. The Sun was directly overhead in Syene at
the summer solstice but in Alexandria it still cast a
shadow. Using the distance and angles he estimated the
Earth's circumference. Eratosthenes' figure has an error of
around five to ten percent.
So "7.7%" was par for the course in advanced scientific
measurement in ancient Greece.
The fact that they could estimate "God" to 7.7% is a
phenomenal scientific achievement by comparison!
Another bizarre assumption. If "god" is a thing, there is no
percentage. You either have the real one or you do not.
[Hammond]
So you'll have to find some other trivia to rag on, I've
beaten your "12 vs. 13" objection to death.
[Michael Moroney]
You're the one who makes it a big deal about your claim that there are
"EXACTLY 13 2nd order Eigenvectors". Well guess what. 12 is NOT "exactly
13".
[Hammond]
Like I said, the Greeks were 7.7% off, same as their
measuremet of the Earth's circumference.
BTW, 12 and 13 are not within 3 significant figures of each other. (do
you even know what that means?) Try 1 sig fig.
[Hammond]
I've got 2 degrees in Physics from accredited
universities in Massachusetts, that certifies that I KNOW
what it means.
As with the rest of your conclusions, this is completely wrong.
It means you did not get thrown out before that point. What
you learned or remembered is irrelevant.
Modern Science has proved
No, Hammond has assumed without proof.
that there are 13-2nd order
eigenvectors EXACTLY (because they form a Cube)...... it was
the ANCIENT GREEKS who were off by 7.7%....
Because you assume they could not count.
because they
simply took an educated guess of a dozen.
So you believe they created their gods to fit your future
theory but were to primitive to get the number right?
THERE ACTUALLY
are 13 so called "Olympian gods".
Incidentally, Hippocrates was EXACTLY RIGHT about the
4-Humors, because again, modern science has proven that
there are EXACTLY 4-3rd ORDER EIGENVECTORS. Today they are
known as "Matthew, Mark, Luke and John" in Religion.
These four are the names of books in the new testament. These
books were written at different times by different people.
Luke and John were written from 100-200 years later by writers
in what is now Turkey where Paul went to establish christianity.
The names of authors spread over a few hundred years is not
likely to have any scientific importance. You will have to
look for something else to push.
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