"George Hammond" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:55:03 -0700 (PDT),
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On 23 apr, 21:19, George Hammond wrote:
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:24:59 -0700 (PDT),

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So the universe DID exist a biilion years ago because we can
experience electro magnetic waves coming from a billion lightyears
away right NOW!

Peter van Velzen
April 23, 2008
Amstelveen
The Netherlands

[Hammond]
WRONG.
The 13 billion year old electromagnetic waves didn't come
into "existence" until MAN came into existence 200,000 years
ago.

This is because here was no such thing as "EXISTENCE" before
MAN came into existence, BECAUSE "existence" is a property
of the human mind. No humans, no existence.

The fact that we can see 13 billion year old electromagnetic
waves coming in from outer space merely means that:

The "exixtence" of of 13 billion year old
e.m. waves came into "existence" 200,000
years ago when Man came into existence
because TIME ITSELF came into existence
when Man came into existence.

SNIP CRAP

I am afraid the meaning of the word existence as you see it, only
exists in your mind, and not in that of other people.

[Hammond]
Wrong Pizzaman. Religion is FOUNDED on exactly my
explanation of "existence".

Oh ... so know you are the "god" of religon!
Of course, like all else you spew, this crap has absolutely no supportive
evidence.



In case you haven't noticed 85%
of the world's population are adherents to one of the 5
major faiths. This means 85% of the world agrees with my
definition of "existence" in principle when it comes to the
scientific phenomenon of "God".

You have to show VALID and scientific support for the first claim before you
move oon to the second.
(a real scientist would know that!)
You didn't.
You haven't.
You won't.
You CAN'T - because it is nothing more than your own psychotic, egomaniacal
crap!