On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:24:59 -0700 (PDT),
" wrote:



So the universe DID exist a biilion years ago because we can
experience electro magnetic waves coming from a billion lightyears
away right NOW!

Peter van Velzen
April 23, 2008
Amstelveen
The Netherlands


[Hammond]
WRONG.
The 13 billion year old electromagnetic waves didn't come
into "existence" until MAN came into existence 200,000 years
ago.

This is because here was no such thing as "EXISTENCE" before
MAN came into existence, BECAUSE "existence" is a property
of the human mind. No humans, no existence.

The fact that we can see 13 billion year old electromagnetic
waves coming in from outer space merely means that:

The "exixtence" of of 13 billion year old
e.m. waves came into "existence" 200,000
years ago when Man came into existence
because TIME ITSELF came into existence
when Man came into existence.

As St. Augustine put it 1700 years ago:

The Universe was created WITH TIME,
not IN TIME.
(St. Augustine, ca. 300 AD)

The theory of God is not kid stuff, it may be too
sophisticated for you.
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