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Old April 5th 08 posted to sci.physics,alt.sci.physics,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.physics.relativity
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Default Aether is the empty space on which the Universe sits

Dear Laurent:

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On Apr 1, 10:23 pm, "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)"
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Dear leonmau

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Where did the light particles come from?


They are quantum exchange particles between
two charged particles.


Explain particle pair creation without aether or
any energy sources. Isn't there a law against
that in your text book?


Without "energy sources"? Where did that idiocy come from?
Explanations without aether are simple a straightforward.

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When they move. What do they move through?


The Universe in Maxwell, and they don't move
through anything in QM.


Right, space is an extension of matter.


... and energy. But only in classical theories. In QM, space is
nonsequitur... so far.

Einstein said,


He died in 1955. There is no religion with His
name on it.


Right, but he was a Pantheist.


Says nothing about where Science has gone since 1915 or so...

"Light is pure energy" and "Energy is space in
motion." Therefore, a light particle has be
composed of energy waves.


No.


Light is wave and particle, it's called photons or
quanta.


These labels you attach to light are a function of the model used
to describe them in relation to the system you define. You say
something about the butcher's thumb, and not the meat on the
scale.

Relativity theory says they have to be
something substantial. Q.E.D.


No. In fact, it says they cannot have any
substance at all.


That depends on what your definition of a
substance is.


In aether, light is "ripples in"... no substance inherent to
light there either.

No matter what you call it,
it's still aether, or empty (of form) space.


There is no empty space.


Right, just like there are no point particles.


Who said that? Electrons and photons... there is no collision
where "bumpers" meet, where new unique particles resolve.

So, the MMX proved nothing.


It disproved an aether that was unique to
light alone.


It proved they didn't understand the nature of
the aether.


You don't either. Will you be droll about your own
misconceptions too, as you are about people that died ~100 years
ago?

Since the aether is the root of all earthly
matter


Impossible to prove.


The proof is that we are here.


Fails.

There can be aether without fields but there
can be no fields without aether.


Yes, there can be. There is no empty space, and what "waves"
with the passage of light is *us*.

Aether is empty space and fields are shapes
drawn by matter as process (spacetime) takes
place. Matter and space are one and the same
autopoietic process.


Word salad. And we again come full circle.

In a diffraction experiment, any finite geometry yields non-zero
diffraction. Both the diffracted particle and the slit
"material" are expressed across each bit of "empty" space.
Subtract that effect out, and the need for an aether ceases to
be.

David A. Smith


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