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Old February 12th 08 posted to sci.physics, sci.physics.particle
Y.Porat
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Default THE HIERARCHY PROBLEM - Mother of physics problem

On Feb 12, 12:50*am, Zilla wrote:
On Feb 12, 1:19*am, "Y.Porat" wrote:





On Feb 10, 7:02*am, Zilla wrote:


http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=...ons-in-particl....


Btw... the articles about the Large Hadron Collider and coming
revolutions
in particle physics in Sci-Am mag are shared free in their site (full
articles).


The Hierarchy Problem and its solution is the top reason the LHC
was built in the first place. And it is not just scaling the energy
up,
it promises to discover new structures such as perhaps Santa Claus
being precipitated by the LHC or more exotic dimensional branes.


I think the Hierarchy Problem can have analogy this way. In a
boxing ring, it takes 10 rounds of time for the boxers to punch
themselves around. Let's say the boxing ring is the interaction
region or vertex of QED. In physics, what happens is that in
1 sec or less, all the punches in the 10 rounds happen at
once. This is the magic of QED & QM. Now the Hierarchy Problem
is the mystery how come a Muhammed Ali punch like an infant.
That is, the Higgs can decay into top quark-anti-top quark pairs
and because there are many paths, it can reach planck mass.
But in reality the higgs mass to satisfy the electroweak theory
is only very small. Why? *Who knows, the LHC may discover
sequestering branes that protect the higgs from reaching the
planck mass.


It is surely interesting times ahead come July when the LHC
becomes operational.


I'm still perplexed why chiral symmetry can protect the masses
of the fermions and bosons from the higgs hierarchy problem.
Anyone kind enough to share?


Zilla


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1
i thought that QM solved everthing !!.......


2
have you heared about the idea of


'The chain of orbitals ' * *???


(3)
you quoted so many parroting nonsense
that beed a special prize from the Land of *nonasense
anyway it sowes clear as sun on midday
that no one undwerstands a **** about what is *realygoing on there
and it i squite clear to me that even the largest LHC
will not make it clearer
if there will be no some change in basic paradigms
like
'no mass in physics '


because old catto saied :
'No mass --no real physics '


ATB
Y.Porat
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What nonsense? *It's just the tip of the iceberg.
Physics middle name is strange and weird...
btw... if you want to know too how chiral
symmetry can protect the masses of the fermions
and bosons from the higgs hierarchy problem.
The answers are he

http://www.itep.ru/ws/2003/procs/Froggatt.pdf

see the chapter "Fermion masses and mass protection".

Also in here

http://courses.washington.edu/phys55...20558_lec2.htm

specifically:

"As we discussed last quarter, both vector particles and
spin ½ particles naturally display symmetries that can
ensure that they remain massless. *In the former case
it is a gauge symmetry that plays this role. *As long
as the gauge symmetry remains unbroken, there can
be no interactions in the theory (i.e., terms in the
Lagrangian, including a bare mass term) that give
the vector gauge boson a mass. *The symmetry
also ensures that this situation remains true even
at higher order in perturbation theory. *In particular,
radiative corrections in the form of loop diagrams
(to be explained more thoroughly below) will not
cause the vector gauge boson to acquire a mass.
Likewise a Lagrangian with chiral symmetry
(i.e., a Lagrangian where the right-handed fermions
are treated independently from the left-handed
ones) will exhibit massless fermions to all orders
in perturbation theory. *Recall that the typical
terms in the Lagrangian for a gauge theory,
except for fermion mass terms, can be written
separately for the different chiral components".

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my poor advaice to you is to learn the most basic
physics
**before you are fiddling with matheamtics**

the only good tip i can suggest to you
for basic physics is

no mass no real physics !!
just as simple as that !!!


(i leave for you the notion and religiious
crookish - ignorant belife
that physics has to be wired...
the human mind and clergy priests
of 500 years ago --can be wired
the basic inorganig physics is simple!!

keep well
and thing 10 secons before you say so someone
'nonmsense '

Y.Porat
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