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Old February 9th 08 posted to sci.physics.relativity
The TimeLord
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Default Alternative Representations of Relativity -What does Mr. Robertsand others say?

Tom Roberts wrote:
The TimeLord wrote:
Proper time is defined as
the time that passes on the object when it is free of gravitational
fields and not moving.


Not true. the proper time of an object is the time elapsed on an ideal
clock that remains collocated with and comoving with the object. Whether

[...]
[#] Proper time is that of the object itself. The object,
of course, does not consider it (itself) to be moving.


Yeah, I stated what I wanted to say very poorly. The sad thing is I
really can't think of a way to clean it up. What I was trying to avoid
is the situation where someone would argue that proper time is the
same as observed time for all points and times of observation when v=0
but a/=0. I guess I'm trying too hard to anticipate those who hate
Relativity without understanding it.

At any rate you're right and I've messed up in the way I said what I
was trying to think of.

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