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Old January 2nd 08 posted to rec.org.mensa, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Randy Poe
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Default Electric attraction between proton and electron ought to bringthem together

On Jan 2, 1:46 am, malibu wrote:
On Jan 1, 11:30 pm, Agent Smith agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-



left.com wrote:
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On Jan 1, 9:04 pm, Randy Poe wrote:
On Jan 1, 8:18 pm, BURT wrote:


What is repulsing protons and electrons?


They behave as if they are the same charge.


They attract, which is why an electron is BOUND to
an atom and why it takes energy to free it.


- Randy


Maybe it's not attraction.


Perhaps unlike charges repel each other just half as much
as much as like charges repel each other.


You have to solve the Schroedinger equation in the 1/r potential to see
the answer. It's because the electron's de Broglie wavelength is much
much greater than the proton's de Broglie wavelength, so the two don't
'touch.' It's one of those things where the probabilistic nature of QM
makes our classical intuition unreliable, and applying the logic of
'billiard ball' particles gives the wrong answer. If you can't solve
differential equations, you can't understand.


That is so much hooey bull****.

If you can't explain it to a 10 year-old, you
don't know it.


"I don't understand it, so it must not be true".

Fortunately for science, that isn't how the scientific method
actually works. We don't have people lining up to ask
you whether you understand a theory before it can
be approved.

The above is the actual explanation. The stable states
of a bound electron are clouds around the nucleus,
as predicted by quantum mechanics.

- Randy
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