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Old December 29th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
Bill Hobba
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Default after the logical refutation: what next?


"Dirk Van de moortel" wrote
in message ...

"Daryl McCullough" wrote in message
...
says...

In response to my remark that as yet I have been offered no rebuttal
to my "logical refutation," A poster on this thread replied that "[my]
tortured reasoning was exposed by a number of posters." Is that so? My
apologies, I did not notice.


That's because you are an idiot.


[snip]

Moreover, the posts in question did not *show* that the two uses of
the term "simultaneous" in Q differed in sense (equivocation) or
reference; these posts merely listed some relative terms, and claimed
without further argument that the apparent contradiction of Q was
justified by its likeness to one of these relative terms. We are not
surprised that no argument was offered, since again, as I explained
above, such an interpretation of SR would trivialize it.


It is trivial. Under the coordinate transformation

x' = gamma (x - vt)
t' = gamma (t - vx/c^2)

two events that are simultaneous in coordinate system
(x,t) are *not* simultaneous in the coordinate system
(x',t').

You are a deeply stupid person.


I think the problem has its root in his notion of time.
He insists that time is something metaphysical and nothing
you or I tell him, will make him change his mind:
"No, time is NOT what we read on clocks.
Time is something metaphysical.
The NIST definition of the second is crap."
Something along those lines.
Just another Blind Bulldozer.


My take is he couches his objections in such tortured reasoning he will
never see the forest for the trees. That may because he believes time is
metaphysical, or he has an ingrained belief time is somehow a-priori
absolute, and that prevents him from seeing it is logically possible for it
to be relative. Sort of like guys I tutored in math ages ago. Let
something be x. Why does it have to be x? No reason - it can be anything
but to proceed it must be something. But why x? It would go around and
around like that. They obviously had a mental block. I suspect something
similar with this guy.

Thanks
Bill


Dirk Vdm



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