On Dec 28, 3:18*am, Michael Gordge wrote:
On Dec 28, 4:48*pm, Laurent wrote:

Empty space was, then came the universe.

Wrong, space is a part of the universe, there is no such thing as
"outside, or space outside", beyond the universe is an oxymoron.

The universe includes space, the definitition of the universe is, all
of that which exists, including all of the known by man and the yet to
know and space is known, it can be sensed.

But the Kantian mystics will agree with you, they have several
definitons for each and every man made concept, even meanings which
contradict each other.

e.g. Kantians will tell you that space is where the tree is and isn't
at the exact same moment, i.e. they want their cake and to eat it
too.

And they just change the meaning of space to suit, and they do that by
pretendng that by preceding the concept with an adjective, it
magically and totally changes the meaning of the concept which it
precedes.

Michael Gordge

There is free space, then there is Alan Guth's 'false vacuum'. There
is Newton's classical space, then there is Timothy Boyer's material
space and Wheeler's quantum foam. Get it?

Next time, read the whole post before posting a reply.